Like many of you, my partners and I are standing inline and waiting for Cirrus’ revised delivery schedule.
It would be helpful and very interesting to
know what contract numbers will be delivered within the next 30 days. CD seems to be reluctant to make that info. public.
When your delivery day is getting close, please post it. It will certainly get our attention.
Thanks,
Bruce Lake, 213
When your delivery day is getting close, please post it. It will certainly get our attention.
Original Contract # 172, SR20 Serial #1128, is scheduled for delivery March 15. Sherri at CD tells me this is a good date. They pushed it back two weeks from March 1 (the first “final” delivery date due to the reorganization.
Like many of you, my partners and I are standing inline and waiting for Cirrus’ revised delivery schedule.
It would be helpful and very interesting to
know what contract numbers will be delivered within the next 30 days. CD seems to be reluctant to make that info. public.
When your delivery day is getting close, please post it. It will certainly get our attention.
Thanks,
Bruce Lake, 213
FWIW, the original promise for #243 was “late June,” but I’ve just received a letter from Cirrus deferring delivery till September.
To their credit, they did offer to refund my just-paid Progress Payment. On the bright side, I suppose this is a small measure of continued solvency!
Michael
Like many of you, my partners and I are standing inline and waiting for Cirrus’ revised delivery schedule.
It would be helpful and very interesting to
know what contract numbers will be delivered within the next 30 days. CD seems to be reluctant to make that info. public.
When your delivery day is getting close, please post it. It will certainly get our attention.
Thanks,
Contract #173 has a scheduled pick-up date of March 23, 2001 at 9:00am. It would have been March 19th, but due to a previous business meeting I had to set it back to the 23rd. Also, Contract #279 which was originally an SR20 has been converted to an SR22 - so the New contract number becomes SR22-067, but no scheduled delivery date has been received from CD.
Gerry Mengo,
SR20 - #173
SR22 - #067
Bruce Lake, 213
Good idea I also have been thinking on the same line.What I dont understand is why cirus is so secretive on this and anther point is how many pos are realy between each other.What I mean is if there is have 180 and say yours 213 or mine 215 are all the pos filled.I heard some are not.And how many sr22 are in the mix. I cant get this info.From them they sem to be open on all other items. From Don 215
Bruce Lake, 213
Don, Allow me to try to answer your questions.
First, the SR22 and SR20’s have different numbers. for instance, SR20 #215 may get delivered the same day SR22 # 133 gets delivered. There is no correlation between the numbers. All that is important to know is where you stand with respect to the airplane (SR20 or SR22) that you ordered.
The numbers are assigned “1 up,” in an ordinal fashion. I believe, but it is unconfirmed, that CD does have ‘blank spaces’ in the queue. These seem to be for comapny demos, investors or other CD priorities like test aircraft. While it may not sound fair that an investor can plunk down a few hundred thousand dollars on top of the price of a new airplane and get a priority position, but let’s remember, CD NEEDS that money and it helps all of us.
TThere are probably several reasons that CD is so secretive. One is that they really don’t want to advertise that an investor can butt in line. Another is that they really try hard not to make promises they can’t deliver on.
At this point, I have been waiting since June 97 for a promised delivery date of September 1998! Why? I’m not sure, but I think it is because I am getting one great airplane at an unbelievable price. I get MOOney or bonanza performance for a fraction of the price. All I really know is that I am getting closer to the final delivery and there IS light at the end of the tunnel.
Marty SR22 #20 (May '01?)
Good idea I also have been thinking on the same line.What I dont understand is why cirus is so secretive on this and anther point is how many pos are realy between each other.What I mean is if there is have 180 and say yours 213 or mine 215 are all the pos filled.I heard some are not.And how many sr22 are in the mix. I cant get this info.From them they sem to be open on all other items. From Don 215
Don’t sweat it, Don. The longer you wait, the better it gets! Think about it . . . when you bought in, you didn’t even expect the Garmin 430, GPS steering, digital transponder, and more. Also, the gross weight increase will be almost a certainty by the time you buy, and possibly the ARNAV weather uplink and engine monitoring. Think of all the other problems they’ve ironed out that you don’t know about. Actually, the show is better from the sidelines. At one point, we even thought about dropping back in line to gain an advantage in improvements, but dropping back in time seems to happen without trying.
Doesn’t take a lot to piece together the projected puzzle and then see what’s what…
Marty @ 20 May 31
Kevin Moore @ 101 – have heard Oct 1, is it Nov now?
Me @226 – supposed to be april 30, '02
So 18 between now and June 1… sounds do able
80 between june 1 and nov 1 … 5 full months 80/5 = 16 per month
146 between nov1 and may 1 '02… 6 full months 146/6 = 24 per month.
Does that look right to people? Is it bad that I’m being so public about this? If so, why?
Sorry if any of this is bad for anybody.
Dean
Good idea I also have been thinking on the same line.What I dont understand is why cirus is so secretive on this and anther point is how many pos are realy between each other.What I mean is if there is have 180 and say yours 213 or mine 215 are all the pos filled.I heard some are not.And how many sr22 are in the mix. I cant get this info.From them they sem to be open on all other items. From Don 215
Bruce Lake, 213
Don, Allow me to try to answer your questions.
First, the SR22 and SR20’s have different numbers. for instance, SR20 #215 may get delivered the same day SR22 # 133 gets delivered. There is no correlation between the numbers. All that is important to know is where you stand with respect to the airplane (SR20 or SR22) that you ordered.
The numbers are assigned “1 up,” in an ordinal fashion. I believe, but it is unconfirmed, that CD does have ‘blank spaces’ in the queue. These seem to be for comapny demos, investors or other CD priorities like test aircraft. While it may not sound fair that an investor can plunk down a few hundred thousand dollars on top of the price of a new airplane and get a priority position, but let’s remember, CD NEEDS that money and it helps all of us.
TThere are probably several reasons that CD is so secretive. One is that they really don’t want to advertise that an investor can butt in line. Another is that they really try hard not to make promises they can’t deliver on.
At this point, I have been waiting since June 97 for a promised delivery date of September 1998! Why? I’m not sure, but I think it is because I am getting one great airplane at an unbelievable price. I get MOOney or bonanza performance for a fraction of the price. All I really know is that I am getting closer to the final delivery and there IS light at the end of the tunnel.
Marty SR22 #20 (May '01?)
Thanks marty yes that does make good since what you said they need the cash flow and i would rather wait longer than not get it at all thanks for the insight from Don
Dean:
I was promised November 2001 for SR22 position #144. If Kevin has #101 for November 2001 that means 33 SR22’s during November. I don’t think so!
One estimate I have received is just an opinion, but suggesting adding 4-5 months to the promised delivery date. Any thoughts?
Doesn’t take a lot to piece together the projected puzzle and then see what’s what…
Marty @ 20 May 31
Kevin Moore @ 101 – have heard Oct 1, is it Nov now?
Me @226 – supposed to be april 30, '02
So 18 between now and June 1… sounds do able
80 between june 1 and nov 1 … 5 full months 80/5 = 16 per month
146 between nov1 and may 1 '02… 6 full months 146/6 = 24 per month.
Does that look right to people? Is it bad that I’m being so public about this? If so, why?
Sorry if any of this is bad for anybody.
Dean
Doesn’t take a lot to piece together the projected puzzle and then see what’s what…
Marty @ 20 May 31
Kevin Moore @ 101 – have heard Oct 1, is it Nov now?
September 28 was the contract date for SR22 #101. I haven’t heard anything further (nor would I expect to have heard) so far. If this date is going to “fly,” then I’ll anticipate a letter requesting a progress payment in just a few weeks. It’s no issue to me, just I would rather not go to Duluth in December or January compared to early October! Thin California blood, you see.
Doesn’t take a lot to piece together the projected puzzle and then see what’s what…
Marty @ 20 May 31
Kevin Moore @ 101 – have heard Oct 1, is it Nov now?
Me @226 – supposed to be april 30, '02
So 18 between now and June 1… sounds do able
80 between june 1 and nov 1 … 5 full months 80/5 = 16 per month
146 between nov1 and may 1 '02… 6 full months 146/6 = 24 per month.
Does that look right to people? Is it bad that I’m being so public about this? If so, why?
Sorry if any of this is bad for anybody.
Dean
The only “unknown” is how many contract #'s are blanked out (demos, refunds, etc.) for planes that won’t be built.
I converted SR 20 contract #333 just after the original “conversion” period had elapsed and therefore had to get at the end of the SR22 line. My anticipated delivery date for the SR20 was March of '01 (contract signed April ‘99). I got my demo ride at my home base strip (a one-way 2500’ turf strip) in Nov. '00. The end of that month, after borrowing my son’s “new math” book and applying it to my finances, switched to the SR22. My SR20 delivery date had slipped to August '01 at the time of conversion. The SR22 contract delivery date assigned was March '02 for SR22 #212.
The e-mail I received from Ian Bentley plus my last conversion with my Cirrus rep. indicated that this was still do-able though I anticipate some slipage.
Quite frankly, my blood is thin enough that a couple of months would not be met with to much grumbling. I know warm is a relative term but what time does it warm up in Duluth?
Another point is that it would not be out of the realm of possibility for someone to want to switch from the SR22 to the SR20 as their life circumstances change. If my house and hanger were not beside the runway I would certainly be one of those.
M. Myers
September 28 was the contract date for SR22 #101. I haven’t heard anything further (nor would I expect to have heard) so far. If this date is going to “fly,” then I’ll anticipate a letter requesting a progress payment in just a few weeks. It’s no issue to me, just I would rather not go to Duluth in December or January compared to early October! Thin California blood, you see.
Hm, just got back from a quick snowmobiling vacation in Grand Rapids MN (chillier than Duluth, without that big warm body of water next door.) It was disappointing when it got above zero. Helps if you are properly dressed.
Of course, I’m an old Michigan boy, but I’ve been in CA long enough to go soft.
Upside–the heater in the SR2x works very well.
Here is another data point for the math. SR22 #121 October 31, 2001. That sounds like roughly 20 SR22s per month by the fall on the previous time table.
Lou
Doesn’t take a lot to piece together the projected puzzle and then see what’s what…
Marty @ 20 May 31
Kevin Moore @ 101 – have heard Oct 1, is it Nov now?
September 28 was the contract date for SR22 #101. I haven’t heard anything further (nor would I expect to have heard) so far. If this date is going to “fly,” then I’ll anticipate a letter requesting a progress payment in just a few weeks. It’s no issue to me, just I would rather not go to Duluth in December or January compared to early October! Thin California blood, you see.
The letter has come! our new 22 date is 9/15/01. The old date was 7/31/01…Ed
OOPS, SR22 number 84
For what it’s worth, I had SR22 position #18 but it looks like I’m getting s/n 0015 (I had to give permission to assign my vanity tail number.) Haven’t been told when to expect it yet either, but I’m guessing it won’t be really cold.
The letter has come! our new 22 date is 9/15/01. The old date was 7/31/01…Ed
OOPS, SR22 number 84
For what it’s worth, I had SR22 position #18 but it looks like I’m getting s/n 0015 (I had to give permission to assign my vanity tail number.) Haven’t been told when to expect it yet either, but I’m guessing it won’t be really cold.
Hi Dave, I am #20 and have been told that i am s/n 17. Used to be #16 but I think a fuselage got messed up. I guess it happens. I am guessing early May.
Marty
Anybody have a good guess as to when SR22 position #144 should be delivered. I haven’t received any letter from Cirrus as to re-scheduling of delivery date. The promised delivery date was November 2001 but it seems clear they can’t deliver on that promise.
The letter has come! our new 22 date is 9/15/01. The old date was 7/31/01…Ed
OOPS, SR22 number 84
For what it’s worth, I had SR22 position #18 but it looks like I’m getting s/n 0015 (I had to give permission to assign my vanity tail number.) Haven’t been told when to expect it yet either, but I’m guessing it won’t be really cold.
Hi Dave, I am #20 and have been told that i am s/n 17. Used to be #16 but I think a fuselage got messed up. I guess it happens. I am guessing early May.
Marty
Good idea I also have been thinking on the same line.What I dont understand is why cirus is so secretive on this and anther point is how many pos are realy between each other.What I mean is if there is have 180 and say yours 213 or mine 215 are all the pos filled.I heard some are not.And how many sr22 are in the mix. I cant get this info.From them they sem to be open on all other items. From Don 215
Don’t sweat it, Don. The longer you wait, the better it gets! Think about it . . . when you bought in, you didn’t even expect the Garmin 430, GPS steering, digital transponder, and more. Also, the gross weight increase will be almost a certainty by the time you buy, and possibly the ARNAV weather uplink and engine monitoring. Think of all the other problems they’ve ironed out that you don’t know about. Actually, the show is better from the sidelines. At one point, we even thought about dropping back in line to gain an advantage in improvements, but dropping back in time seems to happen without trying.
thanks for words of wisdom i also have relised its not all bad waiting and geting alittle more items.From Don