SR-20 crash

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But, in the end, we can’t force Cirrus pilots to be COPA members or to attend the Cirrus Pilot Proficiency Program or to attend the other focused programs available to them or for that matter, even to stay informed on common concerns. Nor can we force an instructor to be a CSIP instructor, and maintain a level of proficiancy with thie particular aircraft and it’s flight characteristics.


Dennis, we obviously agree. But I’m willing to try to influence those who come close enough to hear me!.

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I have seen no mention in any of the discussions that the aircraft owner was a COPA member, nor was the instructor a CSIP instructor.
There is not such thing as being a too trained pilot.
95 hrs and now I can fly NY to California VFR just doesn’t seem to me like a too well trained pilot.


Actually, I did just that – my transition training was departing Duluth VFR in my SR22 after 3 touch-and-goes and landing at San Diego with 29 hours dual and 0.5 hours actual and 2 instrument approaches. Of course I had Matt McDaniel as my instructor, so I learned at the hands of a master.

So, for me the decision chain in this New York accident must be more complicated than a simple explanation of a stupid pilot trick.

Finally, a line I heard at this weekend’s Southwest Regional Fly-in – the sentence for making a dumb pilot mistake should not be death.

Cheers
Rick

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95 hrs and now I can fly NY to California VFR just doesn’t seem to me like a too well trained pilot.


I can report that the CFI flew in from CAL to fly back to CAL with Cory. So I think Cory did know his limitation on the cross country flight to CAL.

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the sentence for making a dumb pilot mistake should not be death.
Cheers
Rick


It shouldn’t, but sometimes is . . .

I get the same feeling in my gut every time a high speed motorcycle wizz’s by me doing 80 to 100 on the highway, at night, without a helmet.

It shoudn’t happen, but sometimes does

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15247117/

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15247117/


interesting. As I said in my last post, having U-turned once in the Hudson corridor and found how little room there really is, I never went up the east river without talking to ATC and having a clearance out of the other end. Not sure that this restriction will prevent people flying up there and turning around and coming back, it only says you have to be controlled.

This is about the least the FAA was likely to do don’t you think? If the accident turns out to be other than pilot error turning around, I hope they drop it again.

NTSB determined it was wind and pilot error sounds like:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15548143/

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NTSB determined it was wind and pilot error sounds like:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15548143/


well in my original post I said

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I found it quite easy to imagine wobbling the steep turn a bit and suddenly finding that there was no way to finish it in the space available.

Not saying that’s what happened, but it is a scenario which bothered me after that first U-turn and I didn’t do it again.


seems like the NTSB thinks something similar. If he started the turn in the middle of the river instead of the very edge as alleged in the report, there really isn’t enough room.

Talk about bizarre!:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15759622/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15759622

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15759622


Show off :slight_smile: