Cirrus Latest Customer Update - Frustrations!

Well, this seems to answer some questions!

It sure is frustrating now that they say they will cut production of SR22’s down to 2-3 per month until May!. I’ve just moved from early March to June or July, maybe.

Well, I’ve waited since my original delivery date of 9/98. How many of you had delivery dates before that? (I suppose it is only the SR22 folks in front of me.) How do you guys feel?

Marty SR22 #20

Well, this seems to answer some questions!

It sure is frustrating now that they say they will cut production of SR22’s down to 2-3 per month until May!. I’ve just moved from early March to June or July, maybe.

Well, I’ve waited since my original delivery date of 9/98. How many of you had delivery dates before that? (I suppose it is only the SR22 folks in front of me.) How do you guys feel?

Marty SR22 #20

At this stage it matters little I know but since the CPI clock stops with your contract due date I am sure Cirrus will be trying hard to fill orders ASAP. bright-side, bright-side. Positive thinking and all that.

M. Myers-SR22-sometime in early '02 (at least so I have been told)

Well, this seems to answer some questions!

It sure is frustrating now that they say they will cut production of SR22’s down to 2-3 per month until May!. I’ve just moved from early March to June or July, maybe.

Well, I’ve waited since my original delivery date of 9/98. How many of you had delivery dates before that? (I suppose it is only the SR22 folks in front of me.) How do you guys feel?

Marty SR22 #20

I think the idea is to concentrate on the SR20 for right now – to improve the production process. Perhaps, they were getting a little ahead of themselves with the SR 22. With improvements to the SR20 production methodology, it will carry over to the SR 22 soon.

Well, this seems to answer some questions!

It sure is frustrating now that they say they will cut production of SR22’s down to 2-3 per month until May!. I’ve just moved from early March to June or July, maybe.

Well, I’ve waited since my original delivery date of 9/98. How many of you had delivery dates before that? (I suppose it is only the SR22 folks in front of me.) How do you guys feel?

Marty SR22 #20

I haven’t seen this news yet. Where does this information originate? I guess my delivery will not be anywhere near the forecast end of May.

My original contract was dated 7/10/98. I guess I signed up for the 22 after you.

Cudos to Paul for your excellent web site.

They snuck the -22’s in to the 20’s production timetable so they could get close to the break even point.They didn’t expect the delays and the money problems that would follow.They really pushed the 22 through.Employees didnt even know what the hell the -22 was after they made a few.The future of this company is simple.Bankrupt or somebody like with money …lots of it, needs to buy.Cause it ain’t working the way it’s going.Trust my words fellas.The faster they push the employees the more mistakes are made in production .They need repairing in production.Now the work force is cut and raises and such are cut.Expect delays my friends or whatever else.It’s america.

Well, this seems to answer some questions!

It sure is frustrating now that they say they will cut production of SR22’s down to 2-3 per month until May!. I’ve just moved from early March to June or July, maybe.

Well, I’ve waited since my original delivery date of 9/98. How many of you had delivery dates before that? (I suppose it is only the SR22 folks in front of me.) How do you guys feel?

Marty SR22 #20

At this stage it matters little I know but since the CPI clock stops with your contract due date I am sure Cirrus will be trying hard to fill orders ASAP. bright-side, bright-side. Positive thinking and all that.

CPI clock stops at Actual Delivery Date, according to my contract

mdz

M. Myers-SR22-sometime in early '02 (at least so I have been told)

Well, this seems to answer some questions!

It sure is frustrating now that they say they will cut production of SR22’s down to 2-3 per month until May!. I’ve just moved from early March to June or July, maybe.

Well, I’ve waited since my original delivery date of 9/98. How many of you had delivery dates before that? (I suppose it is only the SR22 folks in front of me.) How do you guys feel?

Marty SR22 #20

At this stage it matters little I know but since the CPI clock stops with your contract due date I am sure Cirrus will be trying hard to fill orders ASAP. bright-side, bright-side. Positive thinking and all that.

CPI clock stops at Actual Delivery Date, according to my contract

According to Bruce Gunter, the Cirrus rep I deal with, it stops on the contract due date. He may be mistaken but I ask him this question point blank the last time we spoke. Next time I talk with him I’ll ask him again.

M.Myers

mdz

M. Myers-SR22-sometime in early '02 (at least so I have been told)

Alison told me 3 times that for now CPI will stop at the promised date. It is there option, as per contract langage, that this could or can change and be extended. I’m sure with all that is happening that they will honor the promised date.

Robert, I am right after you in line for the '22 (#43, signed the contract in late July of '98). Earlier this week Ian Bently gave me an estimated delivery of late June. This would make sense following their email yesterday, which estimates that 80 SR22’s will be completed by September of this year. Hope their right… Dan

Well, this seems to answer some questions!

It sure is frustrating now that they say they will cut production of SR22’s down to 2-3 per month until May!. I’ve just moved from early March to June or July, maybe.

Well, I’ve waited since my original delivery date of 9/98. How many of you had delivery dates before that? (I suppose it is only the SR22 folks in front of me.) How do you guys feel?

Marty SR22 #20

I haven’t seen this news yet. Where does this information originate? I guess my delivery will not be anywhere near the forecast end of May.

My original contract was dated 7/10/98. I guess I signed up for the 22 after you.

Cudos to Paul for your excellent web site.

Employees didnt even know what the hell the -22 was after they made a few.The future of this company is simple.Bankrupt or somebody like with money …lots of it, needs to buy.Cause it ain’t working the way it’s going.Trust my words fellas.The faster they push the employees the more mistakes are made in production .They need repairing in production.<

Jeff – thanks for this and related reports. I have a friendly, serious, and non-flaming question to ask. Can you tell us, please, how you know these things? This and some other posts sound as if either you’re an insider or are based in Duluth with a chance to keep an eye on the production. For instance: knowing that the employees couldn’t tell what they were making, repairs during production line etc.

We’re all trying to triangulate and judge various reports about the company. For example, there’s extra weight on what Walt C says on how the SR20 stands up over time,since he’s had one longer than anyone else. On his amazing new site Paul Traina lays out the data pro and con about the SR22. People have reported on what happened at their annual inspection, or what insurance quotes they got. In all cases it’s easy to judge the authority and basis for what they report.

In keeping with “trust my words, fellas” could you please give us an idea about the basis for what you’re reporting? Thank you, Jim Fallows

In keeping with “trust my words, fellas” could you please give us an idea about the basis for what you’re reporting? Thank you, Jim Fallows

This is your typical disgruntled employee – everyone has one or more. Trash the organization every way they can. This is not new and definitely not credible. I’m sure you’ve met one.

In keeping with “trust my words, fellas” could you please give us an idea about the basis for what you’re reporting? Thank you, Jim Fallows

This is your typical disgruntled employee – everyone has one or more. Trash the organization every way they can. This is not new and definitely not credible. I’m sure you’ve met one.

there could be about 125 people in this boat…hopefully they can get their act together quick and rehire them as a result of hitting 1 per day…Hopefully this is a temporary situation…

This is your typical disgruntled employee – everyone has one or more. Trash the organization every way they can. This is not new and definitely not credible. I’m sure you’ve met one.

You can say what you want.I love the company really.The plane is a great design.I dont speak to trash them.I just speak the truth.

This is your typical disgruntled employee – everyone has one or more. Trash the organization every way they can. This is not new and definitely not credible. I’m sure you’ve met one.

You can say what you want.I love the company really.The plane is a great design.I dont speak to trash them.I just speak the truth.

Well, golly, Jeff if you speake the truth why don’t you lets us know HOW you know the truth. If you have some substainciated facts, by all means post them on this forum, otherwise try the National Enquirer