Would you please close the door!

The FBO manager came by to tell me that if the door to your plane is open you have to be either in the plane or right next to it. Fines from the FAA promised to violators. Not making it up just passing it along.

Gettin’ stupid out there.

Gettin’ stupid out there.

Gettin’ stupid in here, too.

The FBO manager came by to tell me that if the door to your plane is open you have to be either in the plane or right next to it. Fines from the FAA promised to violators. Not making it up just passing it along.

Gettin’ stupid out there.

I’d love to see them enforce that fine. If it ain’t in the NOTAMs, it ain’t enforcable.

There’s a lot of “creative interpretation” going on with the FBOs, who are in the unenviable position of having to pretend to be cops. In four different trips to KSAF, I had four different experiences. On the first two, the city police officer stationed at the airport boundary told me to have the FBO escort me to the plane; on the second the line guy said that I didn’t need an escort because they “knew me.” On the third trip the cop told me that I had to park on the perimeter, walk to the FBO, get a ride back to my car to pick up my gear, and then get a ride to the airplane. I pointed out that they hadn’t made me do that before; he asked for my ID and stared at it for 30 seconds (not sure what he was looking for) and then said, “well, if that’s what they say to do, fine.” The fourth time the cop let me through to the FBO, but when I buzzed the FBO to open the gate onto the ramp, the person in the FBO said, “no cars on the ramp.” Another pilot vouched for me and then they let me through.

A pilot friend told of his pilot friend’s experience trying to depart Teterboro under part 91 (in a Citation X.) They were told that they could have no passengers and no luggage (they had to ship their bags via UPS.) They were then searched, along with the plane, and the bomb-sniffing dogs were brought in. They took away any sharp objects, including their ball-point pens (apparently they thought maybe one pilot would attack the other or something.)

Whee.

Gettin’ stupid out there.

Gettin’ stupid in here, too.

Perhaps a lively debate on the pros and cons of ISO 9000 certification would smarten things up.

Gettin’ stupid out there.

Gettin’ stupid in here, too.

Perhaps a lively debate on the pros and cons of ISO 9000 certification would smarten things up.

I’m ready.

Greg

When we finish that off, we could discuss the merits of instrument instruction on a Cirrus versus “conventional” airplanes.

Perhaps a lively debate on the pros and cons of ISO 9000 certification would smarten things up.

When we finish that off, we could discuss the merits of instrument instruction on a Cirrus versus “conventional” airplanes.

Don’t you mean POS? :slight_smile:

I flew my first flight since 9/11 today, IFR Frederick, MD to Butler County, PA. Despite the horror stories (urban legends?) circulating here, and execept for a more southerly routing than normal (presumably to avoid Camp David and the Somerset crash site), there was absolutely no difference between today’s flight and the dozens of times I’ve flown it before. I could still drive my car to the airplane at both ends; no FAA police lurkling to jail me for an open door; etc.; etc.

Joe

… They took away any sharp objects, including their ball-point pens (apparently they thought maybe one pilot would attack the other or something.)

Oh my God! I never thought of that!! I keep a Leatherman multi-tool in the mesh pouch next to my left leg. I need to get rid of it, because I could use it to hijack myself. And if I hijacked myself, should I still squawk the secret code (XXXX), or should I stop myself from doing that?

Duh,

-Mike