You make a good point about the PAO berm. Low flat . . . and a last-minute wind shear . . . would be a bummer.
Everybody talks about gluing the airspeed, and of course that is the key. The A36 numbers are identical to the SR20 . . . 80 short final and 75 at the fifty foot mark. At PAO that means you start to pull power, a bit, and raise the nose, a bit, while over the pond, to get your 75 over the threshold.
All that I do, and find easy to do, albeit flying slightly low. When I’m on the steeper VASI, it’s somehow becomes difficult, especially given the rather small target of the first third of PAO’s 2500 feet. But I guess it’s just a matter of practice, and worth the practice, given the remote but real threat of a shear.
By the way, I find it takes two more inches of manifold to hold 80 knots on final at San Carlos, just because of the constant afternoon wind shears.
Thanks, guys. This is a great website.
While I’m not a CFI, low and flat is dangerous. By the time you are on short final, you should have enough glide to insure you make it to the numbers. VASI is your friend.
I fly out of Palo Alto all the time (my Archer is based at SQL). I’ve actually landed a SR20 demo plane at Palo Alto. 80knts over the pond, high seventies at the numbers and off the runway mid-field. This has nothing to do with VASI (angle) and everything to do with airspeed. Fly the airspeed the book tells you to fly and fly the VASI… (every single time you fly!)
“floaters, nose-firsters, balloons, bouncers” are ALL airspeed problems. By the time I’m in ground effect with my Archer - with the stall horn on - it’s not possible to balloon or bounce. If you want to fly with me sometime, I’ll prove both issues to you - a good CFI should be able to do this, too.
Chris SR20 #672 & SR22 &70
I make better landings in the A36 when I come in low and flat . . . lower than red over white, but not quite red over red. (My home airport is Palo Alto, whose short 2500-foot runway demands a first-third landing.)
Question: What is the experience of SR20 pilots flying final?
The reason I ask is because one of my CFIs is an absolute VASI Nazi. We make terrible landings . . . floaters, nose-firsters, balloons, bouncers . . . flying VASI just right and, to my eye, diving to make the runway with all the subsequent problems. On days when I’m soloing, I go back to low and flat, and I land much better.
Question 2: Are all planes to be flown on a “one-glideslope-fits-all” final approach, or are there, in fact, real differences among planes that should dictate difference glideslopes? The SR20 sounds like a “low and flat” plane.
FYI, I have about 65 hours and am just starting to fly cross country soloes.