I am still reading the POH for the SR20. It is a legally binding document for the pilot and I was dismayed to find that Cirrus specifies only on brand of portable oxygen system is acceptable for use in the SR20. It further states that if you use it you cannot have a copilot (or anyone else in the right front seat). Will Sony pay them to require only Sony audio equipment be plugged into the music ports on the Garmin 340?
I checked the archives and the oxygen question was raised in December, 2000, but was not answered.
I was wondering the same thing. For my Bonanza, I currently have an Aerox system with the “Oxysaver” cannulas that has MUCH lower consumption rates than the system described in the Cirrus POH. I cannot understand why the POH system is specified as approved to the apparent exclusion of others.
Since my Aerox system is presumably approved for use in aircraft, what, if anything, keeps me from legally using it? I’d consider installing one of the Aerox “built-in systems” kits ( http://www.aerox.com/BuiltInSystems.html) if possible. What would this entail?
Gordon
I am still reading the POH for the SR20. It is a legally binding document for the pilot and I was dismayed to find that Cirrus specifies only on brand of portable oxygen system is acceptable for use in the SR20. It further states that if you use it you cannot have a copilot (or anyone else in the right front seat). Will Sony pay them to require only Sony audio equipment be plugged into the music ports on the Garmin 340?
I checked the archives and the oxygen question was raised in December, 2000, but was not answered.
You can’t have a copilot in the seat with a Sony Walkman either. Might apply to other brands too.
Will Sony pay them to require only Sony audio equipment be plugged into the music ports on the Garmin 340?
The real problem seems to be the requirement that the approved portable oxygen system be mounted IN the co-pilot seat rather than strapped to the back of the seat [as is done in every other mounting solution that I have seen]. I should say that the SR22 POH specifically requires this mounting method, and I’m only assuming that the SR20 POH is the same in that regard. The Mountain High approved products are first quality and it seems that there is enough flexibility to achieve the efficiency you want. Gary Phillips
I am still reading the POH for the SR20. It is a legally binding document for the pilot and I was dismayed to find that Cirrus specifies only on brand of portable oxygen system is acceptable for use in the SR20. It further states that if you use it you cannot have a copilot (or anyone else in the right front seat). Will Sony pay them to require only Sony audio equipment be plugged into the music ports on the Garmin 340?
I checked the archives and the oxygen question was raised in December, 2000, but was not answered.
Since my Aerox system is presumably approved for use in aircraft, what, if anything, keeps me from legally using it? I’d consider installing one of the Aerox “built-in systems” kits ( http://www.aerox.com/BuiltInSystems.html) if possible. What would this entail?
What keeps you from legally using it is that the SR20 has implicitly said (by specifically only approving the Mountain High) that it is not approved. It is a POH stated requirement for airworthiness. The only way around it with a build in or even a different portable unit is to get an FAA approved STC for you specific plane.
Last fall, Ian Bently mentioned that he thought oxygen systems should be a high priority for Cirrus. After all, Cirri can fly higher than the usual spam cans, and the pilot population isn’t as young as it was. But we’ve been hounding Cirrus for de-ice, diesel, weight increase, etc, with hardly a word for oxygen. I’d put that above de-ice on my personal list.
I was wondering the same thing. For my Bonanza, I currently have an Aerox system with the “Oxysaver” cannulas that has MUCH lower consumption rates than the system described in the Cirrus POH. I cannot understand why the POH system is specified as approved to the apparent exclusion of others.
Since my Aerox system is presumably approved for use in aircraft, what, if anything, keeps me from legally using it? I’d consider installing one of the Aerox “built-in systems” kits ( http://www.aerox.com/BuiltInSystems.html) if possible. What would this entail?
Gordon
I am still reading the POH for the SR20. It is a legally binding document for the pilot and I was dismayed to find that Cirrus specifies only on brand of portable oxygen system is acceptable for use in the SR20. It further states that if you use it you cannot have a copilot (or anyone else in the right front seat). Will Sony pay them to require only Sony audio equipment be plugged into the music ports on the Garmin 340?
I checked the archives and the oxygen question was raised in December, 2000, but was not answered.
You may be reading the POH too broadly in this case. Perhaps, Mountain High can be construed as Cirrus’ recommendation. The other manufacturers can probably steer you in the right direction – special rules for portable devices that they could send you. Of course, they won’t make the determination for you.
What keeps you from legally using it is that the SR20 has implicitly said (by specifically only approving the Mountain High) that it is not approved. It is a POH stated requirement for airworthiness. The only way around it with a build in or even a different portable unit is to get an FAA approved STC for you specific plane.
How about a 337? I don’t think the Aerox build-ins have STCs.
http://www.aerox.com/BuiltInSystems.html
Gordon
What keeps you from legally using it is that the SR20 has implicitly said (by specifically only approving the Mountain High) that it is not approved. It is a POH stated requirement for airworthiness. The only way around it with a build in or even a different portable unit is to get an FAA approved STC for you specific plane.
Last fall, Ian Bently mentioned that he thought oxygen systems should be a high priority for Cirrus. After all, Cirri can fly higher than the usual spam cans, and the pilot population isn’t as young as it was. But we’ve been hounding Cirrus for de-ice, diesel, weight increase, etc, with hardly a word for oxygen. I’d put that above de-ice on my personal list.
I don’t need Cirrus to develop an oxygen system, I just need them to stop trying to prevent customers from using somebody else’s.
Art:
I don’t need Cirrus to develop an oxygen system, I just need them to stop trying to prevent customers from using somebody else’s.
Exactly. Has anyone contacted Cirrus to inquire about this?
Gordon
Last fall, Ian Bently mentioned that he thought oxygen systems should be a high priority for Cirrus. After all, Cirri can fly higher than the usual spam cans, and the pilot population isn’t as young as it was. But we’ve been hounding Cirrus for de-ice, diesel, weight increase, etc, with hardly a word for oxygen. I’d put that above de-ice on my personal list.
I don’t need Cirrus to develop an oxygen system, I just need them to stop trying to prevent customers from using somebody else’s.
Thank you,
Now I don’t have to say it. You already did.
Thanks,
Cheers,
Woor