YIPES! NEW Jepp invoice of $ 815.00

Just got a Jepp invoice for dual Garmins (renewal).

Last year it was 450.00. this time is 815.00?!!

Anybody been through this already? (calling Jepp tomorrow).

I HAVE THE MAIL EXCHANGE SERVICE SINCE MY JEPPVIEW DID NOT WORK WITH MY NEW WIN 2000 LAPTOP.

I have the Skybound II service. Got it a few weeks ago. The cost for Duel 430’s was around $460.00. Plus buying the writer for about $125.00 one time.

Looks like Jepp is pushing people off the mail service via a higher price.

Mason

Last year it was 450.00. this time is 815.00?!!

I have the mail in service for $450. The only reason it was $450 (the normal price was $700+) was that I ordered the Skybound service, but it was not available so they gave me the mail for the price of the Skybound. At some point I suspect they will tell me it is time to buy the data writer and I will eventually start using the downloads.

The info on when the new Jepp data is available and when it will be effective is available on the Jepp web site at:
http://www.jeppesen.com/wlcs/application/commercewf?origin=category.jsp&event=link(browse)&wlcs_catalog_sourceKey=wlcs_categories&wlcs_catalog_destinationKey=wlcs_siblings&wlcs_catalog_category_id=CNS4D2

Harrell,

Art’s right about the pricing. Jepp called me about a month ago to sell me Skybound II; Until I converted, they were willing to give me the mail service at the Skybound price (which will now work with Win2000).

Two weeks ago when I called to subscribe for the Skybound II service, they informed me it is not yet available, speculating as late as September when they get the operating system bugs out. Does anyone have an operating Skybound II now?

They suggested that you could apply the remaining prorated amount from the mail service to the purchase of Skybound.

Dorian

“Does anyone have an operating Skybound II now?”

Yes, and it seems to work fine. Richard

I bought the SB2 at Osh. Had installed it in my pc, but had not converted my account yet from Classic to SB. So I cannot comment on how it works, but it was easy to install. THEN…

Got a unsolicited call from Jepp telling me that they were recalling the SB2 product and gave me a RMA to return mine.

Person did not know what was wrong (just said they were defective), or was not letting on. But I suspect that your delay is associated with this recall. I have not yet received the replacement, although I got a shipping notice saying it shipped early this week.

I thought Jepp was very proactive and cooperative.

Roger
N706CD

I have skybound II and I updated the data cards and it works great.

How does Skybound II know how many cards you are “allowed” to update? The dual Garmin subscription would be for two data cards. What if you tried to update 3 data cards or made a mistake on one and tried to do it over again?
Brian

Brian,
When I did my first (and only, so far) download on Skybound II, it (the system) said I was allowed 10 downloads (even their techie thought that high). Anyway, after dual downloads it says I have 8. In a few days I’ll be doing the next cycle so we’ll see what happens. So far, my experience with Jeppesen is very good. If I screw up they help to fix it. When my initial cards expired and they repeatedly delayed the issue of Skybound II, they sent me two sets of free replacement cards for the next two cycles which I subsequently returned.
Richard

I am about to start this process. Just got the Skybound last week and loaded the software. How soon before the next cycle, in this case September 5, will the new data be available to download? In the mail version, I always received the cards about 5-6 days before expiration of the old ones.
Brian

Good question and have wondered about it myself. Time to call Jepp!
Richard

Just spoke with “Derek” who said the next cycle should be ready for download about a week before the start date. So the 9/5 cycle should be available now.
Richard

As I understand it, if you have a dual subscription you are allowed to update two cards SUCCESSFULLY and no more. If you make a mistake then you won’t get the message that your download was successful and therefore you can try again and agian as many times as you want until you get it right.

In reply to:


How soon before the next cycle, in this case September 5, will the new data be available to download?



Cycle 	    Effective dates	      Download Date

Brian,
I know about this one – mostly because I found some bugs that Jepp (promptly) fixed. You can find the “Cycle Effectivity Dates” by going to the HELP pulldown menu of the Skybound II window after you log on. However, since they list them until December 23rd, 2020, I’ve listed them below. If you drop me an email in 17 1/2 years, I’ll post an update. [:)]

  • Mike.
    **
    Cycle Effectivity Dates:
    The following are the effectivity and download dates for the various product cycles:**
    0207 07/11/02 08/08/02 07/01/02
    0208 08/08/02 09/05/02 07/29/02
    0209 09/05/02 10/03/02 08/26/02
    0210 10/03/02 10/31/02 09/23/02
    0211 10/31/02 11/28/02 10/21/02
    0212 11/28/02 12/26/02 11/18/02
    0213 12/26/02 01/23/03 12/16/02
    0301 01/23/03 02/20/03 01/13/03
    0302 02/20/03 03/20/03 02/10/03
    0303 03/20/03 04/17/03 03/10/03
    0304 04/17/03 05/15/03 04/07/03
    0305 05/15/03 06/12/03 05/05/03
    0306 06/12/03 07/10/03 06/02/03
    0307 07/10/03 08/07/03 06/30/03
    0308 08/07/03 09/04/03 07/28/03
    0309 09/04/03 10/02/03 08/25/03
    0310 10/02/03 10/30/03 09/22/03
    0311 10/30/03 11/27/03 10/20/03
    0312 11/27/03 12/25/03 11/17/03
    0313 12/25/03 01/22/04 12/15/03
    0401 01/22/04 02/19/04 01/12/04
    0402 02/19/04 03/18/04 02/09/04
    0403 03/18/04 04/15/04 03/08/04
    0404 04/15/04 05/13/04 04/05/04
    0405 05/13/04 06/10/04 05/03/04
    0406 06/10/04 07/08/04 05/31/04
    0407 07/08/04 08/05/04 06/28/04
    0408 08/05/04 09/02/04 07/26/04
    0409 09/02/04 09/30/04 08/23/04
    0410 09/30/04 10/28/04 09/20/04
    0411 10/28/04 11/25/04 10/18/04
    0412 11/25/04 12/23/04 11/15/04
    0413 12/23/04 01/20/05 12/13/04
    0501 01/20/05 02/17/05 01/10/05
    0502 02/17/05 03/17/05 02/07/05
    0503 03/17/05 04/14/05 03/07/05
    0504 04/14/05 05/12/05 04/04/05
    0505 05/12/05 06/09/05 05/02/05
    0506 06/09/05 07/07/05 05/30/05
    0507 07/07/05 08/04/05 06/27/05
    0508 08/04/05 09/01/05 07/25/05
    0509 09/01/05 09/29/05 08/22/05
    0510 09/29/05 10/27/05 09/19/05
    0511 10/27/05 11/24/05 10/17/05
    0512 11/24/05 12/22/05 11/14/05
    0513 12/22/05 01/19/06 12/12/05
    0601 01/19/06 02/16/06 01/09/06
    0602 02/16/06 03/16/06 02/06/06
    0603 03/16/06 04/13/06 03/06/06
    0604 04/13/06 05/11/06 04/03/06
    0605 05/11/06 06/08/06 05/01/06
    0606 06/08/06 07/06/06 05/29/06
    0607 07/06/06 08/03/06 06/26/06
    0608 08/03/06 08/31/06 07/24/06
    0609 08/31/06 09/28/06 08/21/06
    0610 09/28/06 10/26/06 09/18/06
    0611 10/26/06 11/23/06 10/16/06
    0612 11/23/06 12/21/06 11/13/06
    0613 12/21/06 01/18/07 12/11/06
    0701 01/18/07 02/15/07 01/08/07
    0702 02/15/07 03/15/07 02/05/07
    0703 03/15/07 04/12/07 03/05/07
    0704 04/12/07 05/10/07 04/02/07
    0705 05/10/07 06/07/07 04/30/07
    0706 06/07/07 07/05/07 05/28/07
    0707 07/05/07 08/02/07 06/25/07
    0708 08/02/07 08/30/07 07/23/07
    0709 08/30/07 09/27/07 08/20/07
    0710 09/27/07 10/25/07 09/17/07
    0711 10/25/07 11/22/07 10/15/07
    0712 11/22/07 12/20/07 11/12/07
    0713 12/20/07 01/17/08 12/10/07
    0801 01/17/08 02/14/08 01/07/08
    0802 02/14/08 03/13/08 02/04/08
    0803 03/13/08 04/10/08 03/03/08
    0804 04/10/08 05/08/08 03/31/08
    0805 05/08/08 06/05/08 04/28/08
    0806 06/05/08 07/03/08 05/26/08
    0807 07/03/08 07/31/08 06/23/08
    0808 07/31/08 08/28/08 07/21/08
    0809 08/28/08 09/25/08 08/18/08
    0810 09/25/08 10/23/08 09/15/08
    0811 10/23/08 11/20/08 10/13/08
    0812 11/20/08 12/18/08 11/10/08
    0813 12/18/08 01/15/09 12/08/08
    0901 01/15/09 02/12/09 01/05/09
    0902 02/12/09 03/12/09 02/02/09
    0903 03/12/09 04/09/09 03/02/09
    0904 04/09/09 05/07/09 03/30/09
    0905 05/07/09 06/04/09 04/27/09
    0906 06/04/09 07/02/09 05/25/09
    0907 07/02/09 07/30/09 06/22/09
    0908 07/30/09 08/27/09 07/20/09
    0909 08/27/09 09/24/09 08/17/09
    0910 09/24/09 10/22/09 09/14/09
    0911 10/22/09 11/19/09 10/12/09
    0912 11/19/09 12/17/09 11/09/09
    0913 12/17/09 01/14/10 12/07/09
    1001 01/14/10 02/11/10 01/04/10
    1002 02/11/10 03/11/10 02/01/10
    1003 03/11/10 04/08/10 03/01/10
    1004 04/08/10 05/06/10 03/29/10
    1005 05/06/10 06/03/10 04/26/10
    1006 06/03/10 07/01/10 05/24/10
    1007 07/01/10 07/29/10 06/21/10
    1008 07/29/10 08/26/10 07/19/10
    1009 08/26/10 09/23/10 08/16/10
    1010 09/23/10 10/21/10 09/13/10
    1011 10/21/10 11/18/10 10/11/10
    1012 11/18/10 12/16/10 11/08/10
    1013 12/16/10 01/13/11 12/06/10
    1101 01/13/11 02/10/11 01/03/11
    1102 02/10/11 03/10/11 01/31/11
    1103 03/10/11 04/07/11 02/28/11
    1104 04/07/11 05/05/11 03/28/11
    1105 05/05/11 06/02/11 04/25/11
    1106 06/02/11 06/30/11 05/23/11
    1107 06/30/11 07/28/11 06/20/11
    1108 07/28/11 08/25/11 07/18/11
    1109 08/25/11 09/22/11 08/15/11
    1110 09/22/11 10/20/11 09/12/11
    1111 10/20/11 11/17/11 10/10/11
    1112 11/17/11 12/15/11 11/07/11
    1113 12/15/11 01/12/12 12/05/11
    1201 01/12/12 02/09/12 01/02/12
    1202 02/09/12 03/08/12 01/30/12
    1203 03/08/12 04/05/12 02/27/12
    1204 04/05/12 05/03/12 03/26/12
    1205 05/03/12 05/31/12 04/23/12
    1206 05/31/12 06/28/12 05/21/12
    1207 06/28/12 07/26/12 06/18/12
    1208 07/26/12 08/23/12 07/16/12
    1209 08/23/12 09/20/12 08/13/12
    1210 09/20/12 10/18/12 09/10/12
    1211 10/18/12 11/15/12 10/08/12
    1212 11/15/12 12/13/12 11/05/12
    1213 12/13/12 01/10/13 12/03/12
    1301 01/10/13 02/07/13 12/31/12
    1302 02/07/13 03/07/13 01/28/13
    1303 03/07/13 04/04/13 02/25/13
    1304 04/04/13 05/02/13 03/25/13
    1305 05/02/13 05/30/13 04/22/13
    1306 05/30/13 06/27/13 05/20/13
    1307 06/27/13 07/25/13 06/17/13
    1308 07/25/13 08/22/13 07/15/13
    1309 08/22/13 09/19/13 08/12/13
    1310 09/19/13 10/17/13 09/09/13
    1311 10/17/13 11/14/13 10/07/13
    1312 11/14/13 12/12/13 11/04/13
    1313 12/12/13 01/09/14 12/02/13
    1401 01/09/14 02/06/14 12/30/13
    1402 02/06/14 03/06/14 01/27/14
    1403 03/06/14 04/03/14 02/24/14
    1404 04/03/14 05/01/14 03/24/14
    1405 05/01/14 05/29/14 04/21/14
    1406 05/29/14 06/26/14 05/19/14
    1407 06/26/14 07/24/14 06/16/14
    1408 07/24/14 08/21/14 07/14/14
    1409 08/21/14 09/18/14 08/11/14
    1410 09/18/14 10/16/14 09/08/14
    1411 10/16/14 11/13/14 10/06/14
    1412 11/13/14 12/11/14 11/03/14
    1413 12/11/14 01/08/15 12/01/14
    1501 01/08/15 02/05/15 12/29/14
    1502 02/05/15 03/05/15 01/26/15
    1503 03/05/15 04/02/15 02/23/15
    1504 04/02/15 04/30/15 03/23/15
    1505 04/30/15 05/28/15 04/20/15
    1506 05/28/15 06/25/15 05/18/15
    1507 06/25/15 07/23/15 06/15/15
    1508 07/23/15 08/20/15 07/13/15
    1509 08/20/15 09/17/15 08/10/15
    1510 09/17/15 10/15/15 09/07/15
    1511 10/15/15 11/12/15 10/05/15
    1512 11/12/15 12/10/15 11/02/15
    1513 12/10/15 01/07/16 11/30/15
    1601 01/07/16 02/04/16 12/28/15
    1602 02/04/16 03/03/16 01/25/16
    1603 03/03/16 03/31/16 02/22/16
    1604 03/31/16 04/28/16 03/21/16
    1605 04/28/16 05/26/16 04/18/16
    1606 05/26/16 06/23/16 05/16/16
    1607 06/23/16 07/21/16 06/13/16
    1608 07/21/16 08/18/16 07/11/16
    1609 08/18/16 09/15/16 08/08/16
    1610 09/15/16 10/13/16 09/05/16
    1611 10/13/16 11/10/16 10/03/16
    1612 11/10/16 12/08/16 10/31/16
    1613 12/08/16 01/05/17 11/28/16
    1701 01/05/17 02/02/17 12/26/16
    1702 02/02/17 03/02/17 01/23/17
    1703 03/02/17 03/30/17 02/20/17
    1704 03/30/17 04/27/17 03/20/17
    1705 04/27/17 05/25/17 04/17/17
    1706 05/25/17 06/22/17 05/15/17
    1707 06/22/17 07/20/17 06/12/17
    1708 07/20/17 08/17/17 07/10/17
    1709 08/17/17 09/14/17 08/07/17
    1710 09/14/17 10/12/17 09/04/17
    1711 10/12/17 11/09/17 10/02/17
    1712 11/09/17 12/07/17 10/30/17
    1713 12/07/17 01/04/18 11/27/17
    1801 01/04/18 02/01/18 12/25/17
    1802 02/01/18 03/01/18 01/22/18
    1803 03/01/18 03/29/18 02/19/18
    1804 03/29/18 04/26/18 03/19/18
    1805 04/26/18 05/24/18 04/16/18
    1806 05/24/18 06/21/18 05/14/18
    1807 06/21/18 07/19/18 06/11/18
    1808 07/19/18 08/16/18 07/09/18
    1809 08/16/18 09/13/18 08/06/18
    1810 09/13/18 10/11/18 09/03/18
    1811 10/11/18 11/08/18 10/01/18
    1812 11/08/18 12/06/18 10/29/18
    1813 12/06/18 01/03/19 11/26/18
    1901 01/03/19 01/31/19 12/24/18
    1902 01/31/19 02/28/19 01/21/19
    1903 02/28/19 03/28/19 02/18/19
    1904 03/28/19 04/25/19 03/18/19
    1905 04/25/19 05/23/19 04/15/19
    1906 05/23/19 06/20/19 05/13/19
    1907 06/20/19 07/18/19 06/10/19
    1908 07/18/19 08/15/19 07/08/19
    1909 08/15/19 09/12/19 08/05/19
    1910 09/12/19 10/10/19 09/02/19
    1911 10/10/19 11/07/19 09/30/19
    1912 11/07/19 12/05/19 10/28/19
    1913 12/05/19 01/02/20 11/25/19
    2001 01/02/20 01/30/20 12/23/19
    2002 01/30/20 02/27/20 01/20/20
    2003 02/27/20 03/26/20 02/17/20
    2004 03/26/20 04/23/20 03/16/20
    2005 04/23/20 05/21/20 04/13/20
    2006 05/21/20 06/18/20 05/11/20
    2007 06/18/20 07/16/20 06/08/20
    2008 07/16/20 08/13/20 07/06/20
    2009 08/13/20 09/10/20 08/03/20
    2010 09/10/20 10/08/20 08/31/20
    2011 10/08/20 11/05/20 09/28/20
    2012 11/05/20 12/03/20 10/26/20
    2013 12/03/20 12/31/20 11/23/20

Thanks, I will look to see if it is available.
Brian

Raj:
Now that conflicts with what Richard has said when he was given up to 10 downloads. I guess Jeppesen is still sorting this out. Since the new updates are due, I will give a progress report next week when i try it.
Brian

Brian,
With Skybound II, downloading and updating takes place in a single step as opposed to the previous version. You can only download and update successfully the number of cards depending on the level of subscription. If you are allowed to download as many times as you like, what prevents someone from updating more than what they have legitimately subscribed for. I know this for a fact because when I tried to update my second card, I was denied the update even though I had a dual subs. When I called Jeppesen they had me for single sub by mistake and when he changed my status I was able to proceed and update my second card successfylly. This all make sense to me.
Raj.

FABULOUS!
Thanks Mike