Starlink Mini - Guide for Cirrus and other General Aviation users

I have a G6 that is still under factory warranty. I wanted to have StarLink power installed at my upcoming annual in January, but I found out this is currently not authorized by Cirrus. Cirrus is supposed to be releasing a SB for this modification soon, but until they do you are out of luck if your aircraft is still under warranty.

Anticipated release date stated by Cirrus is Dec 18th, so it’s just around the corner with not much longer of a wait :slight_smile: .

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The one with the mount that was announced a couple months ago, right? The mount is pretty clever, but the power supply solution is IMHO not satisfactory–you have to run a cable to an upgraded USB power port in the center console. According to Cirrus personnel, the cable is not supposed to be buried or formally installed. You lose the 12 volt cigarette style power port in the console (in order to provide enough power for the upgraded USB port).

It doesn’t in my book solve the power issue for a Starlink in a way I would want.

I think it depends on the shop. I’ve had the rear bulkhead power port installed on two different G6 aircraft by an authorized Cirrus Service Center. Both aircraft were under warranty. And one had several warranty claims honored after the installation. Consider this: how would Cirrus in Duluth even know or care that you had a power port installed when the shop calls up for warranty coverage on, say, a bad mag? They’d have to review the entire logbook and make a determination that they intend to deny coverage on an unrelated system. It hasn’t happened that way to me, but YMMV.

Ken

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I think that is BS… they can’t void a warranty for adding a baggage cigarette lighter… tell them it’s for a ā€œmini fridgeā€ which is initially what I said. I’m long past warranty but some SCs are just well not helpful

Or it’s a ploy to sell their mount and power which is probably more $ for not more value

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Todd,

I’ve been looking for a battery that would function in that manner. Just ordered one. Thanks.

I agree. Reason enough to not buy a plane under warranty to me :thinking:

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I think I will just wait for the ā€œofficialā€ cirrus modification. The exact quote my service center received from Cirrus was, ā€œThere is currently no approval on Cirrus to install this. Cirrus is going to be releasing a SB to install this in the near future. But for now it is not authorized.ā€

That is a Cirrus rule, obviously they can enforce it via warranty or CSC guidelines they issue.

The FAA would say as long as it is done per some method the FAA allows. In this case the FAA would say it is a minor modification that done under AC 43-13 guidance would be permitted.

I get owners of new planes reluctance to potentially invalidate their warranty. Interestingly any old A&P is under no restrictions about performing minor modifications while the CSC is. Whether they would actually invalidate the warranty is speculative. I’ve not heard that they have.

Here is the latest Starlink install and power guide for a Cirrus, summed up into one short video:

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Has anyone found a way to get Starlink to work in any way in a Vision Jet?

Will it work on the cockpit window just with slower speeds bc of the gold tint? Or will it not receive any signal?

Has anyone tried installing a Starlink in the fiberglass tail section?

It appears that Cirrus has issued SB2X-25-40 and -41 (for serials G7 and G2-6 respectively). For G7 it’s a straight swap to upgrade rear left USB to 100W and downgrade forward console left USB from 60W to 15W. For earlier gens it’s a little more involved but seems relatively straightforward with no major electrical work. I presume that the new ports will support Starlink, as I believe they’re intended to. It’d be good to confirm that in practice…. I don’t know if the conversion kits are available to order yet…

I don’t believe those SBs can’t be applied to G2 and G3 SR22 :frowning:

They don’t but you don’t need an SB to put them in. It is a minor modification done under AC43-13 (at least here in the US).

My mistake, you’re correct Ignacio.

Guys, I can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong. I’ve got my Starlink mounted with CJ’s mount and that’s good. I’ve got a Jackery power supply with 100w output. When I hook it up I see the power draw and get wifi on my phone and confirm my phone is getting internet by turning on airplane mode. But at some point between making sure it’s working on the ground and flying I lose the connection. I’ve got the 100GB roam plan. I’ve yet to be able to use it in the air.

Are you monitoring the Starlink dish itself ensuring there’s power going to the device and it’s online using the SL app? Reason I ask this is that the Jackery has known to be problematic in this regard - it will come online, then will reboot - so while it’s ā€œonā€, in reality it’s going on/off and never holding the connection for very long. Easy enough to test this on the ground by firing it up and using it for a more extended period of time (which you may have done so already). The Jackery units are fantastic, but given that they’ve repeatedly been the source of problems among various posters, that’s the first place I’d point the arrrow towards your issue.

Second, how are you powering it from that unit? Aside from the power source, the cable has been a huge source of problems, more of those messages from frustrated people I’ve fielded than I can even remember at this point. There’s a whole bunch of ā€œjunkā€ cables on Amazon that say the work (and they do with hard wired outlet USB-C plugs), but plugged into portable batteries fail miserably. A 100w (or greater) USB-C cable with a 20v adapter to SL is the known solid path (the 12v version adapter fails so avoid that).

Basically your plan is fine - so it’s really down to those two items. Process of elimination. I’d lean towards the Jackery itself being the problem so long as your cord matches the specs I noted. Simply because there’s been so many issues reported with those. But of course could be a combo with both of those having issues. An Anker Solix C300DC is a proven, known alternative used widely.

Hope this helps, the juice will be worth the squeeze when you get this all dialed in!

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I tend to think you are having a Cable / connection problem.

USB Cables have a chip in them that negotiates with the Power supply, some of those will ā€œdowngradeā€ power requirements if usage is lower, the Starlink doesn’t like that.

What Jackery unit do you have?

If it has a cigarette plug or 120v AC connections like this unit.

Utilize the Starlink provided cable and Power adapter.
While it’s a little less efficient use of battery, it will test your Starlink. The stock power adapter utilized 48volts for a longer run of cable and will insure not dropouts.

This would be what I could do to test things.

Alternatively to be a bit more efficient in power you can use the cigarette adapter cable like this:

Just make sure to get the length you need

I got the Jackery Explorer 240 v2 Portable Power Station, 256Wh LiFePO4 Battery with 300W AC/100W USB-C Output.

It will be online when I set it up both having wifi and seeing it connected through the app. I’ll try the extended period of time on the ground as you suggested. The cable is one someone recommended but it’s possibly a junk cable as you also suggested. It’s listed as a 100W cable with 20V. I may try switching cables first as the Jackery is a bit more expensive to replace.

That big Jackery is a great unit and certainly a beast, can handle the workload easily. The smaller units have been where issues have been found repeatedly.

I’d side with Erik in this case on the cable being the issue given it’s the bigger units. With the caveat that even with that much juice, if the cable isn’t perfect some power saving features could be coming into play where it’s downgrading the power and in turn causing an issue.

Easy solution is to grab a lighter plug style one, they’re pretty cheap $25-$30. I bet that solves it for you. That way you’re not messing with the USB C nuances which can be real headaches as we’ve seen here on the forums many times.

I’d bet if you swap that you’ll be golden flying along enjoying it all day long.