Roger:
Thanks for the update. I DID NOT KNOW the old XP and new SP are 2 very different versions of Cessnas “souped up” versions. I have only flown the 172 upgraded version in about 3 different models.
Brian
Yea, and verily.
You are incredible.
Take off with your family under conditions that pilots far more experienced than you in the plane (and very likely overall) would reject.
Are you out of your mind?? Use extreme caution implies that it can be done?? Literally, maybe. New in type, family on board, evidently inxperienced pilot?
You’re right. Must be the plane.
Thanks very much for replying.
Fortunately, if I do in the end decide to buy an SR22 - and I have to say there is nothing that measures up to it at a comparable price -
John,
This seems to contradict click hereyour original post, in which you stated
At least I’ll no longer have to wonder whether I should get a SR22 if/when I can afford it. Cirrus is out for me.
Can you clarify? Thanks!
Cheers,
Roger
Sure. French has a saying “only idiots never change their
minds”. The reaction I got on this group and elsewhere
convinced me that ruling out the SR22 because I wasn’t
happy with an SR20 pushed to its limits, would be a silly
idea. In retrospect it was a silly judgement in the first place,
but I was kind of upset at the time. That’s my excuse anyway.
JohnJohn,
Thanks for keeping us up to date on the evolution of your thinking. We’ll be interested to hear your comments after getting an SR22 demo ride!
Cheers,
Roger
John:
Just between you and me, I think the group response as a whole has been a bit harsh with you. It was obvious you had an experience you did not like but it is also obvious you had it in conditions that would stretch the limits of many single engine aircraft.
What you need to do is define what your most frequent mission will be with use of an airplane. That includes how much weight you typically carry, what type of place you typically fly, and what conditions (VFR Vs IFR) you will usually fly in.
After the mission is defined, you can better determine which aircraft is right for you.
When the SR22 was first introduced, we had a huge discussion in this forum about who should or should not get the SR20 Vs the SR22. The right answer was based on the above principals.
Brian
John,
Furthermore, to add to Brian’s comments…, whenever ANYONE knocks Cirrus on this board, correctly or incorrectly, deserving or not…
‘The Cirrus Defenders’ will assault YOU…deserving or not.
I appreciate you sharing your experience and although many flogged you as a flaming idiot…you probably alerted some others here to the fact that hot, high and heavy are not strong assets of the 20…But, other than that…when it is right…it completely outclasses its competition, my opinion of course.
TC and good luck with your decision.
Don,
As one of the “flamers” on this thread, I want to make my point clear.
The issue isn’t that John criticized the SR20 - if you look at my (possibly overly emotional) position on the Century HSI as an example, I’d like to think that I am willing to recognize shortcomings in the plane or company, although I do have a high net on both.
My position is that John took on a flight that shouldn’t have been made, and blamed the problems on the plane rather than his own judgment. Then, faced with constructive input that he could have forseen the problems, he reverted back to blaming the plane and putting forth defenses of his actions that in my opinion, didn’t hold up.
I believe that most good pilots, upon completing a flight that had problems, are introspective and ask themselves the question “What could I have done to have prevented this from happening?” It doesn’t appear to me that John did this.
Andy