I’m on a mission. If I can prove that some puppies are born that way, and that others actually enjoy being tied to things, then I believe I have a case that the whitewash of your post–along with calls to have you investigated by the Humane Society and PETA–was uncalled for not to mention unconstitutional. [;)] The only problem may come from the puppy’s age. YouÂ’re OK as long as nobody can prove that the puppy in question was under 2.571428571 years (18 human years) when the picture was taken. Anyway, back to the research.
Not to derail the topic, but isn’t The Killing Zone between 150 and 350, not 50 and 350?
I had thought the logic of it was that newly minted private pilots typically use the judgement they have learned and don’t push the envelope. After another 100 hours they begin to feel more confortable and confident, and relax their judgement enough to do stupid things.
Not to derail the topic, but isn’t The Killing Zone between 150 and 350, not 50 and 350? I had thought the logic of it was that newly minted private pilots typically use the judgement they have learned and don’t push the envelope. After another 100 hours they begin to feel more confortable and confident, and relax their judgement enough to do stupid things.
Marty,
Shame on you. We were having an important discussion about dog’s sex lives here. [;)] Actually, I’m glad you brought this back on-topic before my reputation goes from the gutter down into the sewer somewhere.
I can’t remember exactly what the generally accepted hour timeframe is that you are talking about, but I do believe that you are on the right track that it takes a bit more time before the complacency that you mention sets in.
I can’t remember exactly what the generally accepted hour timeframe is that you are talking about, but I do believe that you are on the right track that it takes a bit more time before the complacency that you mention sets in.
Marty, Andy,
I’d have thought you’re right - however, Paul Craig, who wrote “The Killing Zone”, defines it differently. Here’s what it says on the back cover of the book: "Most pilots earn their private certificate with 40 to 70 flight hours. Then they leave their instructors behind and enter the killing zone. Grimly embracing the period from 50 to 350 flight hours – a vital time for new pilots to build practical and decision-making skills – this deadly zone lays (sic) in wait for those who err, killing more pilots than all other periods put together."
For those who haven’t read it - it’s an interesting book, worth reading. However, I can’t help but note that this book also highlights the fact that “The Killing Zone” is also a dangerous place for correct spelling and good grammar! [;)]
I’d have thought you’re right - however, Paul Craig, who wrote “The Killing Zone”, defines it differently. Here’s what it says on the back cover of the book:
Mike,
Don’t worry. We are right. [;)] I haven’t read the book, but I would assume Paul Craig has statistics (lies, damn lies, or otherwise [:D]) to back up his claims. I’m not going to argue with that, because I think we are talking about two different versions of the killing zone. Craig hijacked the long-held definition.
Historically, the “killing zone” has been referenced as a period where pilots get overly comfortable in airplanes and start taking dangerous shortcuts, but they don’t have nearly enough experience behind them to cover for the foolishness of their actions. Not to say that ill-advised shortcuts can’t catch-up with a 2,000 or 20,000 hour pilot (because they do on a regular basis), but they will typically catch-up faster to a 200 hour pilot who gets lazy and complacent. I donÂ’t believe that, in an average pilot, the complacency referenced by this definition sets in by 50, 70 or even 100 hours. More like the 150+ that Marty was talking about.
On the other hand, going out on a limb here since I havenÂ’t read the book, I think that Craig is probably simply referring to the time range in which pilots are statistically most likely to get killed—even if it is just from basic inexperience and lack of skill as opposed to complacency. Frankly, I like CraigÂ’s definition of the killing zone better, and maybe the long-standing traditional reference to the “killing zone” should be changed to something like the “complacency danger zone.”
I bought this book, read it and sent it to the first person on this site that responded (I don’t recall who)
In any case, the deal was to pass it on when done.
Anyone?
FastEddie,
C’est moi!
You gave it to Mike Spalding, who gave it to me at M2. I’ve just started (and almost finished). I guess it’s my turn to pass it on to the first (member) responder!
My wife just dragged me to a 9:55 PM showing of “Vanity Fair”
G*D DID IT SUCK!!!
BTW, tentative plan is to get up early, check out the 5AM Jeanne forecast track, and, if necessary, secure the house and head to Tallahassee with the plane.
I’ll be flying into Tallahassee Commercial - I have a friend with a house a few miles away. Might have some extra room if anyone’s interested. Hopefully the storm will pass quickly and I can head home Monday.
BTW, tentative plan is to get up early, check out the 5AM Jeanne forecast track, and, if necessary, secure the house and head to Tallahassee with the plane.
Made it safely to N GA/SE TN. Made more sense than Tallahassee, since I do have a house and car here. Major issue now is boredom (though Tequila helps with that).
Will see tomorrow if a return home is even remotely feasible.