N567AB (SR22) New Plane Problems, update

Guest Discussion
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Just to let people picking up a/c be on the alert for problems and to correct an earlier error.

  1. At about 25 hours TT, the ALT 2 light started flashing and the ALT 1 Ammeter reading was pegged at full positive scale. Ammeter 2 showed nothing. Voltage normal. I think the only thing that failed as the current sensing circuits in the MCU. My a/c had its first MCU swapped out before I took delivery due to its failure. This has been a problem for other SR22’s as well.

  2. The Arnav is still blank, although the keys light up, so it is getting power.

  3. The Sandel shows a flashing “FLT” in the upper right corner, which is probably due to the failed Arnav. It seems the Arnav forwards data from the Stormscope to the Sandel. It is still forwarding at least some data, as the Stormscope still works, at least somewhat. If I pull the breaker for the Stormscope the “FLT” turns to “WX” with a line through it.

  4. The Low Fuel light didn’t come on even with well less than 14 gallons in each tank.

  5. The pilot-side door doesn’t latch without pulling on the upper handle.

  6. Comm 2 is almost unusable, has a range of about 1/2 mile. I suspect that the antenna is not hooked up.

  7. Had the “recycle transponder” request, even though ATC got a clear primary return. I suspect the exhaust is shielding the beam and next time will try a temporary turn to see if that clears up the problem. Turns out that the big metal plate that the transponder antenna is mounted on is a heat sheild for the exhaust and was not added for the transponder (random factiod).

  8. The autopilot works perfectly. The problem I reported earlier was pilot-error. I was engaging the pilot-selectable course-intercept angle option (HDG and NAV together) instead of simply hitting NAV alone. I didn’t mean to select this more advanced option, just remembered incorrectly from a lesson.

So the a/c is down for these squawks right now and also to have the engine monitoring, Shadin ADC-200 air/data/fuel computer, Bose headset jacks, and some tweaks to the audio system, and its 25 hour oil change. As it happens I had a month-long trip (not in N567AB) planned long in advance, so I was to be away from my new love anyway.

Yes, I still love this a/c.

Robert Bedichek

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  1. The Low Fuel light didn’t come on even with well less than 14 gallons in each tank.

I thought that the low fuel light was supposed to illuminate when both tanks were below 8.5 gallons/tank.

George

SR22 #95

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Bob: That sounds like a long list of squawks!
A few questions:

(1) Will the ADC-200 display on just the Garmin, or does it’s data display also on the Arnav?

(2) Apparantly the Stormscope data is now at least “supposed” to display on the Sandel. Has Cirrus also hooked up the data line to deliver the Stormscope data to the Garmins?

(3) What was the installed cost for the ADC-200? Did Cirrus do it at DLH or at one of the service centers?

(4) What was the installed cost of the Bose headset connectors? Did you do all 4 positions?

(5) I thought the transponder problems had been fixed. It doesen’t look like it. Is Cirrus making any changes here?

(6) You mentioned in an earlier post that you were getting a RS232 connector to deliver the PVT output from the #2 Garmin to a laptop so you could run the Jeppesen FlightStar or FlightMap. Is this in place and working? Any interface problems?

(7) Do you get the impression that the number of squawks you are seeing are typical in the SR22, or did you just have some bad luck?

(8) How much time should be added to the schedule for pickup of new aircraft on account of delivery delays and dealing with squawks in your estimation?

(9) Are you getting the Arnav engine monitoring package? Any experience with it?

Just to let people picking up a/c be on the alert for problems and to correct an earlier error.

  1. At about 25 hours TT, the ALT 2 light started flashing and the ALT 1 Ammeter reading was pegged at full positive scale. Ammeter 2 showed nothing. Voltage normal. I think the only thing that failed as the current sensing circuits in the MCU. My a/c had its first MCU swapped out before I took delivery due to its failure. This has been a problem for other SR22’s as well.
  1. The Arnav is still blank, although the keys light up, so it is getting power.
  1. The Sandel shows a flashing “FLT” in the upper right corner, which is probably due to the failed Arnav. It seems the Arnav forwards data from the Stormscope to the Sandel. It is still forwarding at least some data, as the Stormscope still works, at least somewhat. If I pull the breaker for the Stormscope the “FLT” turns to “WX” with a line through it.
  1. The Low Fuel light didn’t come on even with well less than 14 gallons in each tank.
  1. The pilot-side door doesn’t latch without pulling on the upper handle.
  1. Comm 2 is almost unusable, has a range of about 1/2 mile. I suspect that the antenna is not hooked up.
  1. Had the “recycle transponder” request, even though ATC got a clear primary return. I suspect the exhaust is shielding the beam and next time will try a temporary turn to see if that clears up the problem. Turns out that the big metal plate that the transponder antenna is mounted on is a heat sheild for the exhaust and was not added for the transponder (random factiod).
  1. The autopilot works perfectly. The problem I reported earlier was pilot-error. I was engaging the pilot-selectable course-intercept angle option (HDG and NAV together) instead of simply hitting NAV alone. I didn’t mean to select this more advanced option, just remembered incorrectly from a lesson.

So the a/c is down for these squawks right now and also to have the engine monitoring, Shadin ADC-200 air/data/fuel computer, Bose headset jacks, and some tweaks to the audio system, and its 25 hour oil change. As it happens I had a month-long trip (not in N567AB) planned long in advance, so I was to be away from my new love anyway.

Yes, I still love this a/c.

Robert Bedichek

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According to the POH the low fuel light should come on when each tank has below 14 gallons. Therefore it could come on with total fuel onboard of just under 28 gallons if each tank had 13.9 gallons, or as little as just under 14 gallons if one tank was empty and the other just went below 14 gal. The point is that it will be on if there is less than 14 gallons in both the right and left tank simultaneously.

J. Seckler

  1. The Low Fuel light didn’t come on even with well less than 14 gallons in each tank.

I thought that the low fuel light was supposed to illuminate when both tanks were below 8.5 gallons/tank.

George

SR22 #95

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Jerrold,

I just completed Wings Aloft training in the SR20 and was thinking of its low fuel warning. SR22==>bigger engine==>more fuel consumption==>larger tanks==>higher “low-fuel” warning level. Pretty obvious when I think about it. Thanks for straightening me out.

George

SR22#95

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Bob: That sounds like a long list of squawks!
A few questions:

(1) Will the ADC-200 display on just the Garmin, or does it’s data display also on the Arnav?

Just the Garmin.

(2) Apparantly the Stormscope data is now at least “supposed” to display on the Sandel. Has Cirrus also hooked up the data line to deliver the Stormscope data to the Garmins?

It does display on the Sandel.

It is not hooked to the Garmins. Two displays is enough for me for SS data.

(3) What was the installed cost for the ADC-200? Did Cirrus do it at DLH or at one of the service centers?

Don’t know the cost yet. Top Gun Aviation is doing it.

(4) What was the installed cost of the Bose headset connectors? Did you do all 4 positions?

Don’t know yet. Only doing the front two positions at this time.

(5) I thought the transponder problems had been fixed. It doesen’t look like it. Is Cirrus making any changes here?

I think they think it is fixed. Perhaps it is improved enough that they’re not working on any additional improvement, what with all the other stuff they have to deal with, I don’t know.

(6) You mentioned in an earlier post that you were getting a RS232 connector to deliver the PVT output from the #2 Garmin to a laptop so you could run the Jeppesen FlightStar or FlightMap. Is this in place and working? Any interface problems?

I took it off the list. The list was so long, I’ll just be happy if they can do all the other stuff.

(7) Do you get the impression that the number of squawks you are seeing are typical in the SR22, or did you just have some bad luck?

I trained in a demo plane because N567AB wasn’t ready when it was promised. So I didn’t get to shake it down as I would have had I trained in it.

I suspect that my luck was a little worse than normal, but not much worse.

(8) How much time should be added to the schedule for pickup of new aircraft on account of delivery delays and dealing with squawks in your estimation?

I’d come a week later than they promised and figure on an extra two days while there. In my case, I had another trip planned right after picking up the a/c, so I couldn’t come later (or else I would have). As it was, I came after the promised time, but not enough later to use my a/c for training.

(9) Are you getting the Arnav engine monitoring package? Any experience with it?

I am getting it, don’t have it yet.

Just to let people picking up a/c be on the alert for problems and to correct an earlier error.

  1. At about 25 hours TT, the ALT 2 light started flashing and the ALT 1 Ammeter reading was pegged at full positive scale. Ammeter 2 showed nothing. Voltage normal. I think the only thing that failed as the current sensing circuits in the MCU. My a/c had its first MCU swapped out before I took delivery due to its failure. This has been a problem for other SR22’s as well.
  1. The Arnav is still blank, although the keys light up, so it is getting power.
  1. The Sandel shows a flashing “FLT” in the upper right corner, which is probably due to the failed Arnav. It seems the Arnav forwards data from the Stormscope to the Sandel. It is still forwarding at least some data, as the Stormscope still works, at least somewhat. If I pull the breaker for the Stormscope the “FLT” turns to “WX” with a line through it.
  1. The Low Fuel light didn’t come on even with well less than 14 gallons in each tank.
  1. The pilot-side door doesn’t latch without pulling on the upper handle.
  1. Comm 2 is almost unusable, has a range of about 1/2 mile. I suspect that the antenna is not hooked up.
  1. Had the “recycle transponder” request, even though ATC got a clear primary return. I suspect the exhaust is shielding the beam and next time will try a temporary turn to see if that clears up the problem. Turns out that the big metal plate that the transponder antenna is mounted on is a heat sheild for the exhaust and was not added for the transponder (random factiod).
  1. The autopilot works perfectly. The problem I reported earlier was pilot-error. I was engaging the pilot-selectable course-intercept angle option (HDG and NAV together) instead of simply hitting NAV alone. I didn’t mean to select this more advanced option, just remembered incorrectly from a lesson.

So the a/c is down for these squawks right now and also to have the engine monitoring, Shadin ADC-200 air/data/fuel computer, Bose headset jacks, and some tweaks to the audio system, and its 25 hour oil change. As it happens I had a month-long trip (not in N567AB) planned long in advance, so I was to be away from my new love anyway.

Yes, I still love this a/c.

Robert Bedichek

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Re #8 below “Pickup Date”

Steven, et al

I tried this strategy (“picking up the plane after later than the CD promised date”) - and it doesn’t appear to work.

I purposely scheduled my pickup 6 days AFTER the earliest delivery date offerred by Cirrus.

What apparently happened is that they then reschedule the planes on the production line so that they are all delivered “just in time” or “equally late”. In other words, my 6 day delay got built into the schedule and my plane was resequenced later in the queue.

Net result, it still won’t be ready on the “new” delivery date = promised date + 6days.

However, I will take your advice and delay the start of training until I can complete training (and shakedown) in my plane rather than the trainer offered.

Appears we need to get CD to change they way they forecast production and schedule customer pickups.

But, we’ve had that discussion before.

Bob

Bob: That sounds like a long list of squawks!
A few questions:

(1) Will the ADC-200 display on just the Garmin, or does it’s data display also on the Arnav?

Just the Garmin.

(2) Apparantly the Stormscope data is now at least “supposed” to display on the Sandel. Has Cirrus also hooked up the data line to deliver the Stormscope data to the Garmins?

It does display on the Sandel.

It is not hooked to the Garmins. Two displays is enough for me for SS data.

(3) What was the installed cost for the ADC-200? Did Cirrus do it at DLH or at one of the service centers?

Don’t know the cost yet. Top Gun Aviation is doing it.

(4) What was the installed cost of the Bose headset connectors? Did you do all 4 positions?

Don’t know yet. Only doing the front two positions at this time.

(5) I thought the transponder problems had been fixed. It doesen’t look like it. Is Cirrus making any changes here?

I think they think it is fixed. Perhaps it is improved enough that they’re not working on any additional improvement, what with all the other stuff they have to deal with, I don’t know.

(6) You mentioned in an earlier post that you were getting a RS232 connector to deliver the PVT output from the #2 Garmin to a laptop so you could run the Jeppesen FlightStar or FlightMap. Is this in place and working? Any interface problems?

I took it off the list. The list was so long, I’ll just be happy if they can do all the other stuff.

(7) Do you get the impression that the number of squawks you are seeing are typical in the SR22, or did you just have some bad luck?

I trained in a demo plane because N567AB wasn’t ready when it was promised. So I didn’t get to shake it down as I would have had I trained in it.

I suspect that my luck was a little worse than normal, but not much worse.

(8) How much time should be added to the schedule for pickup of new aircraft on account of delivery delays and dealing with squawks in your estimation?

I’d come a week later than they promised and figure on an extra two days while there. In my case, I had another trip planned right after picking up the a/c, so I couldn’t come later (or else I would have). As it was, I came after the promised time, but not enough later to use my a/c for training.

(9) Are you getting the Arnav engine monitoring package? Any experience with it?

I am getting it, don’t have it yet.

Just to let people picking up a/c be on the alert for problems and to correct an earlier error.

  1. At about 25 hours TT, the ALT 2 light started flashing and the ALT 1 Ammeter reading was pegged at full positive scale. Ammeter 2 showed nothing. Voltage normal. I think the only thing that failed as the current sensing circuits in the MCU. My a/c had its first MCU swapped out before I took delivery due to its failure. This has been a problem for other SR22’s as well.
  1. The Arnav is still blank, although the keys light up, so it is getting power.
  1. The Sandel shows a flashing “FLT” in the upper right corner, which is probably due to the failed Arnav. It seems the Arnav forwards data from the Stormscope to the Sandel. It is still forwarding at least some data, as the Stormscope still works, at least somewhat. If I pull the breaker for the Stormscope the “FLT” turns to “WX” with a line through it.
  1. The Low Fuel light didn’t come on even with well less than 14 gallons in each tank.
  1. The pilot-side door doesn’t latch without pulling on the upper handle.
  1. Comm 2 is almost unusable, has a range of about 1/2 mile. I suspect that the antenna is not hooked up.
  1. Had the “recycle transponder” request, even though ATC got a clear primary return. I suspect the exhaust is shielding the beam and next time will try a temporary turn to see if that clears up the problem. Turns out that the big metal plate that the transponder antenna is mounted on is a heat sheild for the exhaust and was not added for the transponder (random factiod).
  1. The autopilot works perfectly. The problem I reported earlier was pilot-error. I was engaging the pilot-selectable course-intercept angle option (HDG and NAV together) instead of simply hitting NAV alone. I didn’t mean to select this more advanced option, just remembered incorrectly from a lesson.

So the a/c is down for these squawks right now and also to have the engine monitoring, Shadin ADC-200 air/data/fuel computer, Bose headset jacks, and some tweaks to the audio system, and its 25 hour oil change. As it happens I had a month-long trip (not in N567AB) planned long in advance, so I was to be away from my new love anyway.

Yes, I still love this a/c.

Robert Bedichek