# What new technologies could be put in the Cirrus

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**Created:** [January 18, 2004, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/what-new-technologies-could-be-put-in-the-cirrus/40594 "2004-01-18T02:15:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![wrwhite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/wrwhite/32/57_2.png) [@wrwhite](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/wrwhite)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 11:16am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/what-new-technologies-could-be-put-in-the-cirrus/40594/21 "2004-01-22T11:16:52Z")

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Infrared CCD camera technology supports inexpensive ‘night vision’, which should be a benefit for night flying and probably some mist/fog situations.

Night vision (infrared CCD based) cameras are small, light, common and cheap [here](http://www.opticsplus.net/home) .  
or [http://www.x20.org/thermal/FLIR.htm](http://www.x20.org/thermal/FLIR.htm) here .  
Camcorders and digital cameras tout their [super nightshot technology](http://www.kaya-optics.com/devices/sony_nightshot.shtml).  
They can even [see through clothes](http://www.advanced-intelligence.com/camcorders.html)[:)].  
Inexpensive CCDs are popular in [telescopes](http://www.iteastronomy.com/products/cameras/), surely a low-light application.

Gulfstream offers their EnhancedVisionSystem ‘EVS’ technology which can see through substantial  
clouds. see [http://www.gulfstream.com/gulfstreamevs/](http://www.gulfstream.com/gulfstreamevs/) GulfStreamEvs , but which probably uses some more expensive CCD device.  
See also [http://www.aero-news.net/news/commbus.cfm?ContentBlockID=9795af24-4b6f-422f-aba0-d454a92eebd3&Dynamic=1&Range=NOW&FromDate=01%2F10%2F2004&ToDate=01%2F22%2F2004&Category=%2Fnews%2Fcommbus.cfm](http://www.aero-news.net/news/commbus.cfm?ContentBlockID=9795af24-4b6f-422f-aba0-d454a92eebd3&Dynamic=1&Range=NOW&FromDate=01%2F10%2F2004&ToDate=01%2F22%2F2004&Category=%2Fnews%2Fcommbus.cfm)aero-news article  
Companies working on or offering EVS (Enhanced Vision Systems) include:  
[kolsman](http://www.kollsman.com/avinewsetc.html)  
or [thales](http://www.thalesgroup.com/all/pdf/cp_evsnbaa03.pdf)  
or [max=viz](http://www.max-viz.com/whatis.html)  
or [CMC](http://www.cmcelectronics.ca/En/Prodserv/Commav/commav_evs_overview_en.html)

I don’t know the price/performance CCD curve (although these things are always rapidly getting cheaper/better), and I donÂ’t know how the various CCDs perform in various fog/mist, but I suspect that even the simplest/cheapest night vision camera would be a help/comfort and avoid some accidents in low-light flying.

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**Author:** ![gumsrus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@gumsrus](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/gumsrus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2004, 5:54am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/what-new-technologies-could-be-put-in-the-cirrus/40594/22 "2004-01-24T05:54:42Z")

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None of the links above are going anywhere. All I could find of interest is this from the RYAN web site

[http://www.ryaninternational.com/news/prs\_nvg.html](http://www.ryaninternational.com/news/prs_nvg.html)

Rik

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**Author:** ![wrwhite](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/wrwhite/32/57_2.png) [@wrwhite](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/wrwhite)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2004, 1:02pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/what-new-technologies-could-be-put-in-the-cirrus/40594/23 "2004-01-24T13:02:11Z")

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I’ve corrected the CCD/Camera links, and added some more.  
Perhaps someone with more knowledge can comment on what would happen if the proper CCD camera was mounted on a wing and the picture fed to a MFD.

Meanwhile, if you go to the[NtsbDatabase](http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/query.asp#query_start) and select make:cirrus severity:fatal, you can see that now 6 of 7 Cirrus client fatal crashes were arguably low-vis CFIT.  
I expect that as soon as avydine/garmin offers it, Cirrus will make TAWS and/or some enhanced low-vis lookahead a standard/required Cirrus feature, just as the parachute is, and that it will have a bigger safety impact than the parachute.

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**Author:** ![sprinz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/sprinz/32/50_2.png) [@sprinz](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/sprinz)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2004, 1:26am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/what-new-technologies-could-be-put-in-the-cirrus/40594/24 "2004-01-25T01:26:00Z")

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Additionally I would suggest that Weather on the MFD would be great … especially with a touchscreen MFD to zoom in on local area weather or for airport METARS.

Gordon’s idea about the Satellite EPIRB would be a great addition and tie into the safety story as well vs the ELT. It would give Cirrus something to advertise in and effort to continue building it’s reputation as the safest personal GA aircraft available in the marketplace.

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