# instrument training

**URL:** <https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984>\
**Category:** Guest Discussion\
**Created:** [October 30, 2002, 9:48am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984 "2002-10-30T09:48:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![james](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@james](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/james)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2002, 9:48am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984/1 "2002-10-30T09:48:15Z")

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can anyone recommend a school in the states( anywhere) where i can do an instrument rating?

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**Author:** ![trevis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/58956e/32.png) [@trevis](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/trevis)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2002, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984/2 "2002-10-30T13:24:05Z")

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Hi James,

Not sure where you are located, but I did my instrument training at American Flyers in Dallas. They are located all over the country. I did their ten day program. In reality, it is ten days of flight (day and night), three days of ground school and one day for the checkride.

It is an intensive two weeks, but it allows you to concentrate and finish quickly.

Regards,

Ted Revis

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**Author:** ![dlaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@dlaby](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/dlaby)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2002, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984/3 "2002-10-30T16:12:33Z")

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James,

I know several fine flight instructors who will work one on one to help you in training for your instrument rating. Contact me via [dlaby@hotmail.com](mailto:dlaby@hotmail.com) and it would be my pleasure to discuss this with you.

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**Author:** ![frantzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c67d28/32.png) [@frantzy](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/frantzy)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2002, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984/4 "2002-10-30T19:13:56Z")

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You probably specifically want to do it in a Cirrus (given the the nature of this forum), but if not, I highly recommend Seattle Flight ([Seattleflight.com](http://Seattleflight.com)) at KBFI. They offer a truly fixed price course, great instructors, and this part of the country has plenty of actual IMC.

If you are looking to do it in a Cirrus, Wings Aloft at KBFI has a number of SR-20s and -22s.

Mike Frantz

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**Author:** ![manolis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/278dde/32.png) [@manolis](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/manolis)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2002, 9:24pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984/5 "2002-10-30T21:24:51Z")

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I wholeheartedly recommend Wings Aloft. Speak to Kevin Henderson about the 14 day course. I had a very good experience with them this summer, getting cheked out and renting a Cirrus. I plan to go back to do my Instrument rating.

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**Author:** ![dabrams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9dc877/32.png) [@dabrams](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/dabrams)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2002, 3:30am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984/6 "2002-10-31T03:30:18Z")

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I used an ex-PIC instructor, Bill Zaleski for my instrument training last August. I had about 1000 hours (mostly in my ercoupe) before my partner & I picked up our SR20 in mid-July. I got about 35 hours on it before I started with Bill. I completed my IFR rating in 8 days in the SR20 with Bill (I took the written in May). I highly recommend Bill. He is a character, but very professional in the plane. He works out of ALB and typically you go to him (vs the other way around with PIC). His web site is [http://www.instrumentratings.com/](http://www.instrumentratings.com/)

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**Author:** ![aynard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cdc98d/32.png) [@aynard](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/aynard)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 12:29pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984/7 "2002-12-04T12:29:24Z")

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I just got my IR in KISSIMEE Florida with American Flyers.  
Very nice people.  
i was very happy to go back to Belgium and be able to fly IFR wit my SR20.

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**Author:** ![N319MP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8491ac/32.png) [@N319MP](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/N319MP)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 12:12am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984/8 "2002-12-05T00:12:02Z")

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James, I just finished my IFR training from Dave Lammers. Dave is a very proficient pilot. He is retired from Rockwell, and is very active with EAA. He attended the Cirrus flight school with me last August, and currently has over 70 hours of instruction in a SR22. He will travel to your home to train if desired. Traveling with a certified flight simulator. Dave is an excellent pilot, and an outstanding instructor. He is proficient with the complex avionics in the Cirrus. You can reach him at 319-377-1425, or [lammers.david@mcleodusa.net](mailto:lammers.david@mcleodusa.net).

Happy Flying, Mike

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**Author:** ![dave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@dave](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/dave)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2002, 3:36pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984/9 "2002-10-30T15:36:32Z")

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I highly recommend the concentrated 10-14 day programs…American Flyers is a good one, I hear. I used Professional Instrument Courses (PIC); their ads are in most of the trade press. The instructor was excellent…head-over-heels better than any I’d had up to that point in my training

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**Author:** ![reelimages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@reelimages](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/reelimages)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2002, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984/10 "2002-10-30T20:12:39Z")

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Ted, I’m thinking of using American Flyers for my instrument in Santa Monica, how was your experience and what was the cost. I did my private there too.

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**Author:** ![timg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/timg/32/40_2.png) [@timg](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/timg)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2002, 7:49pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984/11 "2002-10-30T19:49:43Z")

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I did a 10 day course with PIC (really 9 days + checkride).

I am in favor of ‘immersion’ training, but I thought 9 days was not enough time.

I felt my instructor, while certainly extremely experienced, was not all that great.

We flew in what I now realize is “known icing” conditions, and actually experienced airframe icing twice and carb icing once in those 10 days…in retrospect we shouldn’t have been flying some of that time…I felt he was highly motivated to get the job done on schedule despite the weather.

My $0.02.

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**Author:** ![lpsosbey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/lpsosbey/32/99840_2.png) [@lpsosbey](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/lpsosbey)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984/12 "2002-12-04T14:36:09Z")

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Congrats!

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**Author:** ![Jaap](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/jaap/32/28_2.png) [@Jaap](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/Jaap)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 7:35pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/instrument-training/39984/13 "2002-12-04T19:35:01Z")

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Dear Aynard,

Van harte gefeliciteerd, tres bien !

I also got my CPL/IR at AF, but at KADS Addison. (Still waiting for my SR)

Only one question, are you legally able to fly IFR in Belgium without ADF/ DME ?

Jaap
