# Forget TCM and lYC, I've seen the future! **URL:** \ **Category:** Guest Discussion\ **Created:** [April 19, 2001, 11:02pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/forget-tcm-and-lyc-ive-seen-the-future/38014 "2001-04-19T23:02:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![UnknownPreviousUser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/unknownprevioususer/32/89805_2.png) [@UnknownPreviousUser](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/UnknownPreviousUser)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2001, 11:02pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/forget-tcm-and-lyc-ive-seen-the-future/38014/1 "2001-04-19T23:02:26Z")
And it’s at [www.smaengines.com](http://www.smaengines.com) ---
**Author:** ![UnknownPreviousUser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/unknownprevioususer/32/89805_2.png) [@UnknownPreviousUser](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/UnknownPreviousUser)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2001, 11:32pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/forget-tcm-and-lyc-ive-seen-the-future/38014/2 "2001-04-19T23:32:39Z")
> And it’s at [www.smaengines.com](http://www.smaengines.com) > > Hello! We had a discussion about this beginning in Dec. 25, 2000. I have pointed out this site then, and been watching it ever since. They have been flying this engine for a while now. Not available here, yet, but soon. Michael ---
**Author:** ![UnknownPreviousUser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/unknownprevioususer/32/89805_2.png) [@UnknownPreviousUser](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/UnknownPreviousUser)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2001, 7:24am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/forget-tcm-and-lyc-ive-seen-the-future/38014/3 "2001-04-20T07:24:30Z")
> And it’s at [www.smaengines.com](http://www.smaengines.com) > > there’s a number of new players in the engine game. Some others that are interesting: [www.thielert.com](http://www.thielert.com) - Very interesting and very new (at least to me). First engine is already JAR certified, flying in a Warrior. www.mecanair.ch Chris ---
**Author:** ![UnknownPreviousUser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/unknownprevioususer/32/89805_2.png) [@UnknownPreviousUser](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/UnknownPreviousUser)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2001, 12:06am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/forget-tcm-and-lyc-ive-seen-the-future/38014/4 "2001-04-20T00:06:09Z")
Yes. Though I don’t remember seeing this particular link. I seem to remember the discussion was focused on France and Socata, and of course my point about the above is that is is as I type this, being placed a 182, here in the states. For certification in the not very distant future Cheers. Dean ---
**Author:** ![UnknownPreviousUser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/unknownprevioususer/32/89805_2.png) [@UnknownPreviousUser](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/UnknownPreviousUser)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2001, 12:23am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/forget-tcm-and-lyc-ive-seen-the-future/38014/5 "2001-04-20T00:23:00Z")
> Hello! We had a discussion about this beginning in Dec. 25, 2000. I have pointed out this site then, and been watching it ever since. They have been flying this engine for a while now. > Not available here, yet, but soon. > Michael Michael, I never read posts that begin with Diesel anything. Not sexy enough. Give me 3000TBO and turbocharged and I pay attention. 🙂 Dean ---
**Author:** ![UnknownPreviousUser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/unknownprevioususer/32/89805_2.png) [@UnknownPreviousUser](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/UnknownPreviousUser)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2001, 12:10am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/forget-tcm-and-lyc-ive-seen-the-future/38014/6 "2001-04-20T00:10:22Z")
Found it! And the discussion from March. Very exciting to see it in a 182. Makes it seem like something that will actually happen sometime this century, Unlike FADEC, which though I am always seeing updates, seems to be constantly ‘just around the corner’ ---
**Author:** ![UnknownPreviousUser](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/unknownprevioususer/32/89805_2.png) [@UnknownPreviousUser](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/UnknownPreviousUser)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2001, 1:50pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/forget-tcm-and-lyc-ive-seen-the-future/38014/7 "2001-04-21T13:50:23Z")
Does anyone know, has the SMA engine received JAR certification? Last year at Oshkosh they said that they expected JAR approval by the end of 2000 and FAA certification sometime in 2001.