# COPA Migration 2021 | September 23-26th KSDL **URL:** \ **Category:** COPA Migrations\ **Created:** [July 7, 2021, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526 "2021-07-07T16:42:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ErikGun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/erikgun/32/789_2.png) [@ErikGun](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/ErikGun)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 4:42pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/1 "2021-07-07T16:42:54Z")
# COPA Migration 2021 | September 23-26th KSDL # Register Today Date: 2021-09-23T07:00:00Z → 2021-09-26T07:00:00Z Location: Scottsdale, AZ | Westin Kierland Resort & Spa Airport: KSDL | Ross Aviation [Click Here to Register!](https://events.cirruspilots.org/Migration2021#/?affl=COPAForumBanner) ---
**Author:** ![ErikGun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/erikgun/32/789_2.png) [@ErikGun](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/ErikGun)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 4:43pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/2 "2021-07-07T16:43:14Z")
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**Author:** ![Tony\_Sobczak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/tony_sobczak/32/659_2.png) [@Tony\_Sobczak](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/Tony_Sobczak)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/4 "2021-07-07T19:13:25Z")
The [Westin Kierland](https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/phxws-the-westin-kierland-resort-and-spa/?scid=bb1a189a-fec3-4d19-a255-54ba596febe2&y_source=1_MTUwMjgxNi03MTUtbG9jYXRpb24uZ29vZ2xlX3dlYnNpdGVfb3ZlcnJpZGU%3D) is an amazing resort! I can’t wait to return. Vicki and I will be flying to KSDL in our G2, We plan to spend Wednesday night somewhere near ABQ and then complete the trip early on Thursday Morning. I have heard the VFR traffic can be a challenge so I plan to file IFR, hoping that I can get right in. Is that a “thing” or am I kidding myself? ---
**Author:** ![Roger\_Whittier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/roger_whittier/32/85023_2.png) [@Roger\_Whittier](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/Roger_Whittier)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/5 "2021-07-07T19:48:12Z")
> [@Tony\_Sobczak](#): > > I have heard the VFR traffic can be a challenge so I plan to file IFR, hoping that I can get right in. Is that a “thing” or am I kidding myself? SDL is a busy airport. IFR might help a little for someone unfamiliar with the airspace, although I have never had an issue VFR. SDL is supposed to be the busiest one runway airport in the nation. They have a high percentage of jets too. Tower is very competent. You will not have any issues. Easy cheesy. ---
**Author:** ![Spholder](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/spholder/32/686_2.png) [@Spholder](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/Spholder)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/6 "2021-07-14T19:50:44Z")
I may be solo from the West (KSTS, Santa Rosa) if anyone is looking for a ride etc… ---
**Author:** ![asegal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/asegal/32/112325_2.png) [@asegal](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/asegal)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 1:10am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/7 "2021-07-15T01:10:35Z")
After navigating our way onto the ground, what is the best option for parking/tie down? We too will be coming from NorCal and looking forward to out first migration… ---
**Author:** ![ErikGun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/erikgun/32/789_2.png) [@ErikGun](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/ErikGun)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/8 "2021-07-15T01:14:26Z")
Our event Parking will be at Ross Aviation. ATC will know. More details will be released as we get closer ---
**Author:** ![chris.gio884](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/chris.gio884/32/241773_2.png) [@chris.gio884](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/chris.gio884)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/10 "2021-08-10T13:58:49Z")
For suggestion box…. Can Roger’s maint class start later? 10a on first day—when not from area or not flying in on Wed—is nearly impossible. Even from CA I’d need to get the fam up and out before sun-up to have a chance of making it. Can it not start later on Th…? ---
**Author:** ![Roger\_Whittier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/roger_whittier/32/85023_2.png) [@Roger\_Whittier](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/Roger_Whittier)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/11 "2021-08-10T18:40:00Z")
> [@chris.gio884](#): > > Can Roger’s maint class start later? 10a on first day Not a problem for me to start later. I will speak with Erik, there may be conflicts I am not aware of. ---
**Author:** ![Roger\_Whittier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/roger_whittier/32/85023_2.png) [@Roger\_Whittier](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/Roger_Whittier)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2021, 11:25pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/12 "2021-08-10T23:25:27Z")
> [@Roger\_Whittier](#): > > Not a problem for me to start later. I will speak with Erik, Chris, We are going to slide the start by an hour. Not sure how much that helps you but it is a 6 hour class and we need to finish in time for the class attendees to get cleaned up so they can attend the COPA Cabana party. It is only an hour but I hope that helps. Hope to see you there. ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Sobczak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/tony_sobczak/32/659_2.png) [@Tony\_Sobczak](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/Tony_Sobczak)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/13 "2021-08-11T18:30:29Z")
> [@Roger\_Whittier](#): > > we need to finish in time for the class attendees to get cleaned up so they can attend the COPA Cabana party. In the Arizona heat, they might need two showers! 💦 💦 💦 ---
**Author:** ![Roger\_Whittier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/roger_whittier/32/85023_2.png) [@Roger\_Whittier](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/Roger_Whittier)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/14 "2021-08-11T19:16:47Z")
> [@Tony\_Sobczak](#): > > Arizona heat, they might need two showers! LOL ---
**Author:** ![chris.gio884](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/chris.gio884/32/241773_2.png) [@chris.gio884](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/chris.gio884)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/15 "2021-08-11T19:51:07Z")
This is great, hoping it helps others as well. Registered and ready! ---
**Author:** ![gordonf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/gordonf/32/17_2.png) [@gordonf](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/gordonf)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2021, 8:11pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/16 "2021-08-11T20:11:53Z")
> [@Tony\_Sobczak](#): > > In the Arizona heat, they might need two showers! That would be in Florida heat. In Arizona heat it’s the opposite: you need to moisturize! ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/copa/original/3X/a/2/a2b2236d91e1844889ee22c179748e89f2edef94.png) ---
**Author:** ![bRadical](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/bradical/32/115478_2.png) [@bRadical](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/bRadical)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/17 "2021-08-24T00:24:55Z")
Is the full schedule posted? I’m sure it’s posted somewhere… just can’t find it. ---
**Author:** ![ErikGun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/erikgun/32/789_2.png) [@ErikGun](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/ErikGun)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 12:37am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/18 "2021-08-24T00:37:17Z")
Here it is: > **[COPA Migration 2021](https://events.cirruspilots.org/Migration2021#/agenda?affl=MigrationDirectLink&lang=en)** > > COPA's 2021 Migration Fly-in and Tradeshow ---
**Author:** ![Bassettj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/bassettj/32/85242_2.png) [@Bassettj](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/Bassettj)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 1:39pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/19 "2021-08-25T13:39:39Z")
Erik, Is there an APP this year? It appears that Roger’s maintenance class will be at the HOTEL - I thought he was going to be at the airport? I appear to have it incorrect. -J- ---
**Author:** ![ErikGun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/erikgun/32/789_2.png) [@ErikGun](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/ErikGun)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 1:46pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/20 "2021-08-25T13:46:17Z")
There is an app but it’s a little different(trying to make things easier, more streamlined) this year. One vendor for ticketing, website, and app vs separate in the past. You can download it [here for iOS](https://apps.apple.com/in/app/zoho-backstage-for-attendees/id1324912655) You can download it here [from Google play](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zoho.backstage&hl=en_US&gl=US) Or search “Zoho Backstage for attendees” An email to attendees will be going out to share this info. But your welcome to download and sign in now. * * * > [@Bassettj](#): > > It appears that Roger’s maintenance class will be at the HOTEL Yes the class is currently scheduled classroom work at the hotel, with a trip to the airport for some “lab work” this may change depending on the final number of attendees. ---
**Author:** ![Bassettj](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/bassettj/32/85242_2.png) [@Bassettj](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/Bassettj)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/21 "2021-08-25T14:10:33Z")
Erik, Thanks for the clarification… Looking forward to seeing everyone - been too damn long in isolation. -J- ---
**Author:** ![bRadical](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/bradical/32/115478_2.png) [@bRadical](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/bRadical)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526/22 "2021-08-25T14:41:05Z")
> [@ErikGun](#): > > this may change depending on the final number of attendees. Erik Re the number of attendees…. Are you able to share the ttl # of attendees to date? Are you able to share with us who is attending? It’d be nice to see how many ppl we converse with on COPA but have yet to personally meet. Thx! [Next page](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-september-23-26th-ksdl/232526.md?page=2)