# COPA Migration 2021 Flight Planning and Arrival **URL:** \ **Category:** COPA Migrations\ **Created:** [September 18, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201 "2021-09-18T20:54:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![lhazlewood](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/lhazlewood/32/121518_2.png) [@lhazlewood](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/lhazlewood)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/42 "2021-09-26T19:16:54Z")
Just called in to both the hotel front desk (thanks for the rate info!) and Ross Aviation to reschedule my departure for tomorrow. I’m a VFR pilot, and while the ceilings around KSDL _may_ clear up to ~ 17,000 feet per the weather forecast, it doesn’t mean my path home will. I have a northwest route home to Las Vegas, and the weather system seems to be rotating in that direction. One of my favorite features in Foreflight is the Profile View after entering a course: Even though KSDL and KVGT (my home airport) reported VFR conditions and high enough ceilings starting 1 or 2 pm local time, the profile view showed a decent-sized section of the trip had zero gap between the high elevation ground and the cloud cover. That means no horizontal corridor anywhere in that section to fly above ground and below the clouds, making this an easy(ier) decision to cancel my departure today. I was leaning on that side of the decision even around 9 am this morning, but this made it all that easier. Plus with the amazing talks given by our honorees and guest speaker last night… well, it was an easy decision for my personal limits. 😉 If anyone is up for dinner together tonight, let me/us know! ---
**Author:** ![SR22Tesq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/sr22tesq/32/231_2.png) [@SR22Tesq](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/SR22Tesq)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/43 "2021-09-26T19:47:41Z")
I was scheduled to depart Monday anyway. Sunday is an important “business” meeting… ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/copa/original/3X/6/a/6ab50a58ae6a1101bd87961a09731fdf556b3deb.jpeg) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/copa/original/3X/1/b/1b1fa45b22a47ca1cc2d1f2c1188df55665a4591.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![chris.gio884](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/chris.gio884/32/241773_2.png) [@chris.gio884](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/chris.gio884)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 12:58am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/44 "2021-09-28T00:58:44Z")
The ADM continues. John Wayne (SoCal) socked in. No safe way home (for a VFR pilot). Diverted to nearest clear airport, about 25 miles away, and in Uber now with family on way home. Will come back for plane. ATC/ Flight Following, was very supportive by the way. ---
**Author:** ![hanstb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/hanstb/32/163162_2.png) [@hanstb](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/hanstb)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 1:04am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/45 "2021-09-28T01:04:14Z")
> [@chris.gio884](#): > > The ADM continues. Congratulations, as with the learning, ADM is a journey with no end point, well at least not one you want to find yourself at. ---
**Author:** ![MikeK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/mikek/32/949_2.png) [@MikeK](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/MikeK)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 1:12am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/46 "2021-09-28T01:12:27Z")
> [@chris.gio884](#): > > ATC/ Flight Following, was very supportive by the way. Same for me with LA Center & LA Approach on the way to Migration, when I needed some creative routing to get under the smoke and over to Banning. Awesome folks. ---
**Author:** ![djcopa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/djcopa/32/196720_2.png) [@djcopa](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/djcopa)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/47 "2021-09-28T01:21:53Z")
> [@chris.gio884](#): > > Diverted to nearest clear airport, about 25 miles away, and in Uber now with family on way home. Excellent move Chris! Glad you are home safe. Nice to meet you at Migration. ---
**Author:** ![tmackel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/tmackel/32/116246_2.png) [@tmackel](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/tmackel)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/48 "2021-09-28T01:32:24Z")
Chris, Great meeting you at Migration. Good decision. Adele flew down commercial on Sat afternoon so we weren’t going to do an early am exit on Sunday. The WX got worse in the afternoon. I was also exhausted from shopping. Last I was running up against night currency. Adele had work this morning so she took SWA home at 10pm. I departed around 11am today. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/copa/original/3X/b/3/b30c7e9a5f31e979ffb53fe5261e67dc04de44b7.jpeg) Now I need to check KVNY TAFs. We plan to go there tomorrow. Good decision. Adele gave me grief for not having my IR because it was limiting our travel flexibility. That’s a great problem to have. That’s the outcome of Migration SDL ‘21, COPA, and the #cirruslife created by us…marketed by Cirrus. Come up to Henderson soon. Tom ---
**Author:** ![SR22Tesq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/sr22tesq/32/231_2.png) [@SR22Tesq](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/SR22Tesq)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/49 "2021-09-28T01:40:40Z")
I departed SDL at 7:45am this morning. Other than having to stay at 4,500’ for clouds the first 15 minutes, the flight through the Banning Pass was uneventful. Over San Bernardino (KSBD), I could barely see or breathe at 8,500’ due to smoke. Went up to 10,500’ and things got better. Camarillo (KCMA) was socked in 1,300’ broken 2,100’ overcast. Shot the GPS 26 Z and life was good back home. Thank you to all who attended and flew home safely. ---
**Author:** ![CarlRossi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/carlrossi/32/221717_2.png) [@CarlRossi](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/CarlRossi)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/50 "2021-09-28T01:53:09Z")
> [@SR22Tesq](#): > > Over San Bernardino (KSBD), I could barely see or breath at 8,500’ due to smoke. Standard Day in the I.E. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![dstclair](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/dstclair/32/85250_2.png) [@dstclair](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/dstclair)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/51 "2021-09-28T02:21:55Z")
We took off bright and early at 10:30am for Lajitas International Airport near Big Bend National Park. Spent about 30 mins in IMC at 11k with icing forecast at 13k and above. Had a VMC bailout below the clouds at 9500 that kept us well above the rocks. Smooth ride until a bit of convection came up. We then dodged widely scattered storms through NM and TX. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/copa/original/3X/7/4/7407df747378925cb2ea7da34345597203d2e5e7.jpeg) Not exactly what I expected in the SW this time of year. ---
**Author:** ![MikeK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/mikek/32/949_2.png) [@MikeK](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/MikeK)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 2:36am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/52 "2021-09-28T02:36:29Z")
> [@tmackel](#): > > Now I need to check KVNY TAFs. We plan to go there tomorrow. Yeah, the problem with this stupid smoke is that it just doesn’t show up properly in the weather reporting. When I was on top of the smoke near Bakersfield, it was a solid undercast. Absolutely no ground visibility. But the METARs in that area were all reporting SKC! Totally untrustworthy. (I diverted out to the coast where it was clearer and then got under it.) You might give a look at one of the satellite weather sites before you go. I was looking at [https://zoom.earth](https://zoom.earth) and it seems to have good imagery, updated every 10 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![EdWatters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/edwatters/32/261921_2.png) [@EdWatters](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/EdWatters)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/53 "2021-09-28T02:47:45Z")
4 hours, 29 minutes of boredom today. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/copa/original/3X/c/9/c947908beaa15bd4df6dfd741d67c4b2d5675dff.jpeg) Nice to finally meet you in Scottsdale. ---
**Author:** ![MikeK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/mikek/32/949_2.png) [@MikeK](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/MikeK)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 3:53am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/54 "2021-09-28T03:53:52Z")
Same here, Ed! It was a pleasure! ---
**Author:** ![Calbio](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/calbio/32/1706_2.png) [@Calbio](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/Calbio)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/55 "2021-09-28T03:58:37Z")
My FP was typical good marital ADM. I got 48 hours at Migration, she got 48 hours in Sedona. Win-win. Base to final 03 KSEZ was worth the 3.5 hours each way (from / to San Carlos CA) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/copa/original/3X/d/3/d32988732b63916f6ba64ce1ae03aeadf3a7ffd5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MikeK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/mikek/32/949_2.png) [@MikeK](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/MikeK)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 4:05am UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/56 "2021-09-28T04:05:02Z")
Sorry we didn’t connect at Migration, Kurt! I did hear you on frequency a couple of times on the way there, but I think my route changes put me into SDL behind you. Oh, or if you were dropping your wife off in SEZ, maybe I was ahead of you! ---
**Author:** ![aniemyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/aniemyer/32/175_2.png) [@aniemyer](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/aniemyer)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/57 "2021-09-28T14:02:28Z")
Dave, Worked around the mess mid-day Saturday until NNE of Showlow, AZ, then just made sure I gave these puppies a wide leeway until east of Gallup. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/copa/original/3X/a/c/ac94ca751d7b5c8d4b5b5a4ffa62c4a28e75d548.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![EdWatters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/edwatters/32/261921_2.png) [@EdWatters](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/EdWatters)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/58 "2021-09-28T21:24:34Z")
Well, not so boring today…I jinxed myself… ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/copa/original/3X/2/3/23490557bdb470172107d082c1d810d4a8bf6ab3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![MikeK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/mikek/32/949_2.png) [@MikeK](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/MikeK)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/59 "2021-09-28T21:37:24Z")
Eep! ---
**Author:** ![hanstb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/hanstb/32/163162_2.png) [@hanstb](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/hanstb)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/60 "2021-09-28T21:42:57Z")
> [@EdWatters](#): > > I jinxed myself… Happens to the best of us… What lead to your turning off Bat 1 and ALT 1? ---
**Author:** ![EdWatters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/copa/user_avatar/forum.cirruspilots.org/edwatters/32/261921_2.png) [@EdWatters](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/u/EdWatters)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201/61 "2021-09-28T22:40:18Z")
ALT 1 died a slow death between OK City and Knoxville. Didn’t want the battery to join it! [Previous page](https://forum.cirruspilots.org/t/copa-migration-2021-flight-planning-and-arrival/235201.md?page=2)